han Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 You hold the following embarrassing collection, white vs red, playing IMP pairs on BBO: xxxxJxxxxxxQx Don't give up yet, the hand gets much better! Partner opens 1H, RHO bids 2D. I like to bid 2H here with most hands holding 3 hearts, but I thought that this was not enough. Any thoughts? So I passed, LHO bid 2S, and partner bid 3C, and RHO now jumps to 4S. Do you pass or do you bid? 1H - (2D) - pass - (2S)3C - (4S) - ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I'm confused... What does RHO bid? 2♦ (as in the bidding) or 2♥ (as in your explanation which doesn't make sense since you can't bid the same bid as your RHO)? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I'm confused... What does RHO bid? 2♦ (as in the bidding) or 2♥ (as in your explanation which doesn't make sense since you can't bid the same bid as your RHO)? ;) Thanks, I corrected it (it was the bid that made sense :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Partner will have a good 5/5 with a singleton or S void. I assume you are playing "good/bad", else the distinction between a good 5/5 and a merely competitive one cannot be made.I would expectxAKxxxxxAKJxxor better.On this hand you have at least 4 losers and 4S probably makes. I think you are worth 5H. You should get out for 500 at worst. If pd has better shape obviously the odds improve in your favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Ok, I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Like Ron, i play the 3♣ bid as more than simply competitive, but i am willing to give partner a break and not punish him. I like my hand, and partner will be serious about playing the hand... but still... their bidding didn't give me any more hcp or any better distribution. Partner may have the hand imagined by ron, but we surely lose 2♦ and a ♠ so we are not going plus. Add to that, the only way we don't score 2♥ and 2♣ is if someone has a singelton or void in hearts, and that distribution could lead to big hurt in 5♥'s. So as much as it pains me, i would pass at imps (i can't get too excited about -500 versus -620, but i will get down right aggrevated about -300 verus +100 if they are not making). At matchpoint, i would be much more likely to bid on to a 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 5♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebound Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Ok, so I'm no expert. But I pass. You know, sometimes, you just have to let the opps make game. If your partner has a shapey hand, then I feel it is likely that at least one of the opponents does too. 5♥ could get ugly. Seems like declarer's LHO in 5♥ holds 4 trump and may be tapping declarer right from the opening lead. OTOH, you never know, you may beat 4♠. Of course, I've been known to be wrong about this sort of thing, but pass would be almost automatic for me at the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 This was the full hand: [hv=d=s&v=e&n=s8ha8653d2cak10972&w=saj752hk109dj5c543&e=skq64hq4dakq98cj8&s=s1093hj72d107643cq6]399|300|Scoring: IMPp-p-1H-2Dp-2S-3C-4S??[/hv] As you can see, 5H goes down 2 for -300, while 4S is cold. I passed :( . (I apologize for getting the original hand wrong.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanbari Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 As you can see, 5H goes down 2 for -300, while 4S is cold. I passed :) . (I apologize for getting the original hand wrong.) as north, i would bid 4c at second round, strongly asking partner to compete. so i put blame on north somehow. shan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 IMO north is closer to 5♣ than south is to 5♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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