PhilKing Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Please inform yourself better, because this is NOT brown sticker. BSC apply to the weak options of an opening. In each of the weak openings ♣ are known, so there's no unknown suit there. 11-15 is constructive and therefore doesn't apply to the rules of a known suit. THe reg says the non-weak option needs to be at least a king above average. Whether 5-5 distribution and 11 points qualifies is a moot point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 THe reg says the non-weak option needs to be at least a king above average. Whether 5-5 distribution and 11 points qualifies is a moot point.Ok you're right. WBF regulations aren't what they used to be apparently... Funny though, in Belgium we use WBF definitions of systems, but somehow the "King above average" was lost in translation and is replaced by "opening strength" (= rule of 18). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) THe reg says the non-weak option needs to be at least a king above average. Whether 5-5 distribution and 11 points qualifies is a moot point.It says that for a strong hand the high-card strength needs to be a king above average. So, 13 points on the Milton Work count, 21 on the Bamberger. Re-edited! I think the regulation could be worded more clearly, and Phil was right all along about what it says, though not about the value of "a king above average" being moot! :) Edited August 2, 2013 by gordontd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 THe reg says the non-weak option needs to be at least a king above average. Whether 5-5 distribution and 11 points qualifies is a moot point.Deleted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msjennifer Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I am of the opinion that all these complicated conventions which are meant to totally confuse everyday-bridge players be banned in BBO and such other games arranged for non-professional players.Let the Professionals play such conventions as their opponents know how to nullify these,but let the innocent amateur ladies and gentlemen play the simple game and enjoy it.I entirely agree with the hosts who ban such artificial bids in the homely tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 msjennifer, I suggest you take up tiddleywinks. Do you play golf? Perhaps the holes should be a maximum of 50 metres from the tee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 don't know what your 3♣ opening is, but I would much rather play 2NT = 3♣ opening or majors, and 3♣ = minors or clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHiggin Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 don't know what your 3♣ opening is, but I would much rather play 2NT = 3♣ opening or majors, and 3♣ = minors or clubs.retracted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 4, 2013 Report Share Posted August 4, 2013 I wish some "everyday-bridge players" would open their eyes for once, instead of considering everything they don't know to be "confusing". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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