barsikb Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 5-card support Jxxx 4HCPVul or Non-Vul5-3-3-2, 5-4-3-1, 5-4-4-0, 5-4-2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted July 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Sorry, mistake! My partner opened 1S. I have Jxxxx is Spades, 4High card points. Should I raise if we are vulnerable? Non-vulnerable?If my hand is 5-2-4-2? 5-3-1-4? 5-3-3-2? 5-0-4-4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Sorry, mistake! My partner opened 1S. I have Jxxxx is Spades, 4High card points. Should I raise if we are vulnerable? Non-vulnerable?If my hand is 5-2-4-2? 5-3-1-4? 5-3-3-2? 5-0-4-4? i would bid 4 spades most times especially white/red but what do i know :D maybe 5-3-3-2 is a little different but 5-0-4-4 i think its a clear 4 spade bid? (presuming u play 5 card majors) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHiggin Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 I would certainly make some raise - the real question is how high (IMHO).It also defends on methods.If we play 3♠ as weak, then I would raise at least to that level.If I hold a singleton or void, I would raise to 4♠.If I hold some 5332, then 2♠ if 3♠ is not weak.If some 5422, and my side 3HCP are in the side suit, I bid 4!S otherwise 2/3 (Kxxx being much better than QJxx)Vulnerability would not influence me. (I have experienced some memory loss from oxygen starvation - my opinions might be suspect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted July 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Thank you, eagles123 and BillHiggin B-) This is Bergen idea, right? Less than 6HCP, bid 4 with 5-card support and 3 with 4-card support. Just in case I bid 2Spades with 5-3-3-2, shall I raise to 4 after partner invited by bidding 3S? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillHiggin Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Thank you, eagles123 and BillHiggin B-) This is Bergen idea, right? Less than 6HCP, bid 4 with 5-card support and 3 with 4-card support. Just in case I bid 2Spades with 5-3-3-2, shall I raise to 4 after partner invited by bidding 3S? The preemptive raise to 4 on 5+ card support plus some shortness and a weak hand very much predates Bergan or the Law of Total Tricks (standard in old style Goren methods). The 5332 shape offers little as far as playing strength. I would pass partner's 3♠ game try (I am about an Ace shy of what he is hoping for). An even more extreme situation exists with actual LOTT situations. 4333 shape is not worth a super-accept of a transfer or a "Bergan" raise even if partner's suit is your 4 banger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 3S is enough with 5332, if you play that as preemptive. I personally hate bidding 2S with 5 cards but maybe that's the best solution with 5332 4-counts if you can't bid 3S with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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