barsikb Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Very common situation, right? Please recommend best sources on Internet. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lebensohl or don't bother[1] NOT "stolen bids" which are worse than natural. [1] - Well, there are some other options like Ruebensohl, but they are a bit adfvanced for B/I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lebensohl or don't bother[1] if you don't want to learn lebensohl - most people on bbo will never have heard of it - just play bids non-forcing, double take-out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lebensohl works only over natural overcalls, right? What if opps use Capp, DONT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted July 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Wank: "just play bids non-forcing, double take-out " Where can I get well-written details on this, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lebensohl works only over natural overcalls, right? What if opps use Capp, DONT? It can still apply over conventions. Just use a little common sense, and just pretend they overcalled naturally, so the stopper asks/shows revolve around whatever their primary shown suit is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 One of the most basic methods for dealing with intervention over a 1NT opening is the following: Double - Penalty.Simple bid of a new suit - natural and competitive, intending it to play. Less than game forcing values.Jump bid of a new suit - natural, forcing (alternatvely, natural, invitational, and use cue bid as the only game forcing call other than a game bid).Cue bid - game forcing Stayman. Opener should bid 4 card major suits up the line. Responder may have a long suit of his own. Since game must be reached, any below game bid is forcing.2NT - natural and invitational.All game bids - to play. This method is simple. But there are many situations it will not handle well. For example, what do you do with a balanced strong hand without stoppers in the opponents' suit? That is why more complicated methods - takeout doubles, Lebensohl, Rubensohl, and others - have been developed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Lebensohl works only over natural overcalls, right? What if opps use Capp, DONT? If opps use DONT, you can treat their overcall as a natural 1-suiter and use your standard Lebensohl treatment. If opps use capp, then you need a treatment over their: penalty X -- an easy treatment is that 2-any is to play, XX is to play, and pass is everything else. This is not best, but it's easy (and fairly standard). 2C = single suiter -- just play systems on. X = stayman, and everything else as if there were no interference 2D = majors -- This is based on "unusual over unusual" which applies when opps bid an unusual 2NT, and which is google-able. Again, it may not be best, but it's easy. -- X = cards and willingness to penalize, invites partner to dbl for penalty. 2H = inv+ in clubs. 2S = inv+ in diamonds. 2N = natural inv. 3M shows a stopper in M. 3N is to play. 2M = M + a minor -- treat it like a natural one-suiter and use lebensohl. Basically do this anytime they show two suits, but only one of which (the one they bid) is known. 2N = m's -- unusual over unusual. X = cards and willingness to penalize, invites partner to dbl for penalty. 3C = inv+ in hearts. 3D = inv+ in spades. 3M is to play. 3N is to play. Can't have it all (e.g., looking for minor-stoppers). Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted July 6, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 This does help a lot! Thank you, wyman, ArtK78, TylerE. I'll be back to this topic with examples later ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts