phoenix214 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yesterday i got dealt this hand as South(South dealer, E-W red, scoring is Imps), ♠:KQJ6♥:KT5♦:T95♣:QJTPlaying precision with an (12)13-15 NT and an unbalanced 1♦ opening i decided to pass.(I suppose some would want to open 1NT with this hand, because of the good honor combinations in the black suits + the three tens)After my pass, lefty did as well and pard opened 1♥. Now i did use Drury and checked how strong my pard is and found out he had a super minimum, less then 11HCP, so we got to play 2♥.My pards hand was:♠:987♥:A9874♦:QJ7♣:K7 The play started with A,K of diamonds and a ruff. Since the ruff was from Qxx, he did not have extra heart losers. Funny thing is that nor 2NT nor 3♥ are making. If i would have opened 1NT, we would be playing higher, because of the fact that my p would have invited me to game, and we would be too high already. Checking the hand playing natural seems that it is easy to stop in 2♥, after 1m-1♥, 1NT-2♣(2wayCB), 2♦, 2♥.Lessons learnt from the deal: It is nice to have ways to stop low with invitational hands(1NT/2M) and that we should know how to pass with some good hands once in a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the lesson is that aceless 4333 hands are not as good as their point count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 I think the lesson is that aceless 4333 hands are not as good as their point count. Also that normal actions may not be successful when both hands are super-minimums. Also that a four-point opening 1NT range is not ideal. (Of course (12)13-15 may mean either that many 12-counts are opened or that 12-counts are, very rarely, upgraded.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yesterday i got dealt this hand as South (South dealer, E-W red, scoring is Imps), ♠:KQJ6 ♥:KT5 ♦:T95 ♣:QJTPlaying precision with an (12)13-15 NT and an unbalanced 1♦ opening i decided to pass.(I suppose some would want to open 1NT with this hand, because of the good honor combinations in the black suits + the three tens)After my pass, lefty did as well and pard opened 1♥. Now i did use Drury and checked how strong my pard is and found out he had a super minimum, less then 11HCP, so we got to play 2♥.My pards hand was: ♠:987 ♥:A9874 ♦:QJ7 ♣:K7 The play started with A,K of diamonds and a ruff. Since the ruff was from Qxx, he did not have extra heart losers. Funny thing is that nor 2NT nor 3♥ are making. Well done Phoenix214 :) I'd venture 1N, fly too high, and crash back into the flames :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted July 7, 2013 Report Share Posted July 7, 2013 Also that normal actions may not be successful when both hands are super-minimums.Normal auctions wouldn't get higher than 2♥, would they? Playing a weak NT or 1♣ when a strong NT, I would have thought responder not good enough for a game invitation. If you are tempted, it can only be because of the ill-advised wide-ranging NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 8, 2013 Report Share Posted July 8, 2013 Normal auctions wouldn't get higher than 2♥, would they? Playing a weak NT or 1♣ when a strong NT, I would have thought responder not good enough for a game invitation. If you are tempted, it can only be because of the ill-advised wide-ranging NT. This is all true. I was generalising a bit about "lessons to be learnt" -- on this particular hand I agree that getting to 3♥ is unlikely in most methods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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