Phil Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 MPs - all vul ATxxx xxx KQJx x Pass* - (pass) - 2♠ - (pass)? Unfortunately, it is not your style to open hands like this with this partner - at least vulnerable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 2NT(ogust).If partner answered 3♣ or 3♦,you bid 3♠;If partner answered 3♥ or 3♦,you bid 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_clown Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I would bid game unless partner is known to be extremely aggressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 3♠. Hopefully partner is understanding when we miss a game because opps had clear bids but didn't make them. At least it's MP? I don't want them to balance cheaply, but I'm not loving our chances in 4♠. After all, partner's marked with hearts on the (opps' non-)bidding. I just think it's too much to ask that partner can cover 2 out of our 5 outside losers AND have the spade cards he's ostensibly got. I mean all the guy did was make a 3rd seat 2S call... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 3♠. Hopefully partner is understanding when we miss a game because opps had clear bids but didn't make them. At least it's MP? I don't want them to balance cheaply, but I'm not loving our chances in 4♠. After all, partner's marked with hearts on the (opps' non-)bidding. I just think it's too much to ask that partner can cover 2 out of our 5 outside losers AND have the spade cards he's ostensibly got. I mean all the guy did was make a 3rd seat 2S call...I don't think you should take the opponents' failure to bid as marking partner with hearts. You have 10 HCP and partner does not have to have trash for his 2♠ bid (he is vulnerable). So the opps may just not have enough to compete over 2♠ (LHO doesn't have an opening bid, and RHO, facing a passed partner, doesn't have enough to compete over 2♠ vul). I would bid 4♠ and hope that partner's hand fits mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I mean even if partner has 2 hearts, we still have 4 losers the vast majority of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Unfortunately, it is not your style to open hands like this with this partner - at least vulnerable. It is very debatable whether it is a matter of style or judgement when it comes to open this hand or not. Personally i do not see this one as a matter of "style" I would prefer to have this hand over many 5332 11-12 hcp hands. There are also things that i can mention about the opening decisions and vulnerability. Basically stating that vulnerability should have ZERO effect on your 1 level openings. However what i argue would make more sense if it was IMPS. At MP i can understand your concerns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 MPs - all vul ♠ A T x x x ♥ x x x ♦ K Q J x ♣ xPass* - (pass) - 2♠ - (pass)? Unfortunately, it is not your style to open hands like this with this partner - at least vulnerable. IMO 4♠ = 10, 4♦ = 8 Pass = 5, 3♠ = 4. Judging by opponent's silence, partner has a bit extra for his 3rd in hand opener. Nevertheless, game may be on for both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It is very debatable whether it is a matter of style or judgement when it comes to open this hand or not. Personally i do not see this one as a matter of "style" I would prefer to have this hand over many 5332 11-12 hcp hands. There are also things that i can mention about the opening decisions and vulnerability. Basically stating that vulnerability should have ZERO effect on your 1 level openings. However what i argue would make more sense if it was IMPS. At MP i can understand your concerns. On some days we do as partner wants, not as we would otherwise do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 What would 2NT and 3 level responses mean for you Phil? As a passed hand, it feels like we should have some extra asks available, since we no longer need these to show constructive hands. On the surface it looks like we need the opps to have misbid for game to be a good bet but perhaps we can move the odds in our favour a little bit with some system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 It is very debatable whether it is a matter of style or judgement when it comes to open this hand or not. Personally i do not see this one as a matter of "style" I would prefer to have this hand over many 5332 11-12 hcp hands. There are also things that i can mention about the opening decisions and vulnerability. Basically stating that vulnerability should have ZERO effect on your 1 level openings. However what i argue would make more sense if it was IMPS. At MP i can understand your concerns.Would you open ♠JT643, ♥KT7, ♦7, ♣ AQ74 and which hand would you consider better? Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Would you open ♠JT643, ♥KT7, ♦7, ♣ AQ74 and which hand would you consider better? Rainer Herrmann Am i suppose to assume from the second question that the correct answer is yes ? But no i would not, this also answers your second question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 My partnership opens pretty aggressively here, so pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 What would 2NT and 3 level responses mean for you Phil? As a passed hand, it feels like we should have some extra asks available, since we no longer need these to show constructive hands. On the surface it looks like we need the opps to have misbid for game to be a good bet but perhaps we can move the odds in our favour a little bit with some system. Systems on so Ogust. I've played 2N asks for shortness by a passed hand however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'd bid 4S, partner will not have a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 4S, WTP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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