Fluffy Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Our side vulnerable, match points.♠63♥AQ5♦8753♣K953 (pass)-1♠-(pass)-1NT!(pass)-2♣!-(2♥)-?? 1NT= f12♣ = 3+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Our side vulnerable, match points.♠63♥AQ5♦8753♣K953 (pass)-1♠-(pass)-1NT!(pass)-2♣!-(2♥)-?? 1NT= f12♣ = 3+ If 2♣ were natural this is an auto raise. The forcing no trump has put you in a poor position to judge. I imagine opener will have three clubs often enough for 3♣ to be too dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why don't we have 2♠ among options ? There are a lot of 2/1 players who does not play 1M-2M constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Why don't we have 2♠ among options ? There are a lot of 2/1 players who does not play 1M-2M constructive. Maybe because Gonzalo had not had this bid avaiable and want us to decide what to do under these circumstances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Won't partner make better decisions here than MY GUESS?I've shown 6-12, having 9 with HAQ over them.I evaluate a good 9, not a near 12 for a 2Nt bid.I can pass and let partner get many of these auctions correct.And take my lumps when he also can only guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 Maybe because Gonzalo had not had this bid avaiable and want us to decide what to do under these circumstances? He didn't have a 2S bid available? Did they take it out of his bidding box or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I have nothing more to show so I pass. This actually tells partner quite a bit, so hopefully he can make a good decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 I overlooked 2♠ partner will normally think you have 4-7 HCP with 3 spades but it probably won't matter to him. Its not that it was not avaible, its that this hand was my partner's and he said he had though of 2NT, 3♣ and double but never mentioned 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 double.... i've got 2 places to play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 We are about a K better than a minimum for our biddingthus far and a Q short of invitational. Is it a better lie to xand show more value or pass and have p worry about usbeing totally minimum?? At IMPS I think the x carries more weight since we usually try to bid sketchy games especially vulnerable. This is MP and we are not overly concerned about missinggame since we have a partner that knows we have a minimal response or maybe we are sitting waiting for them to reopen with x so we can pass 2hx. This is a far cry form many othersituations where p needs to be worried about us beingcompletely broke. The delayed 2h bid allowed us to showsome power I see no need to pretend I am too strong heresince we may all too easily get overboard. pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeegan Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 :P Thanks for a really nice problem hand. No one answer stands out imo. So, who is this player who passes nvul over 1♠ then jumps into my auction over 2♣? Can he/she play or are they just filling out the movement? What is he/she up to? Are they shooting for a top late in the session? I really want to double for penalties, but pard will pass with a lot of minimum hands with a doubleton heart where they make it or go down just one for a poor score for our side. I'm definitely going to sneak a peek at this intruder and sniff the breeze as well. Pass, 2♠ or even 2NT may be the resulting answer. Viewed in isolation, I am guessing RHO has a ratty six bagger and about 12 HCP. For all I know Kx of hearts may show up on my left. Plus 300. I can taste it and smell it, but that doesn't mean it's there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 So, who is this player who passes nvul over 1♠ then jumps into my auction over 2♣? Can he/she play or are they just filling out the movement? What is he/she up to? I see this a lot in pickup games on BBO, delayed entry at the two level after ops have made two or three bids. Usually it is a weakish 5 card suit. Don't know the setting in this case of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 she had a weak 6-4 in the reds. Partner had ♠KQ10xx ♥xx ♦Ax ♣AQxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 This is a classic sequence where mainstream negative double are inferior to cooperative doubles. IMO im more likely to have 9-11 pts with 3/4 H than having a classic neg double. This is especially true if you dont play constructive raises wich allow you to bid 2S implying 2254 or similar shapes. When there no unbid majors at the 2 level look at how often you would have a cooperative double hand vs a takeout double hand. Anyway with OP methods you have to double because of the extra strenght you expect to make something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fromageGB Posted July 4, 2013 Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 I guess as 2♣ showed 3+, then the strength range from opener is pretty wide. I'm doubling for penalty. In the absence of that 2♥ bid I would bid 2♠ if it did not guarantee a 3 card suit, but haven't a clue what to do on these methods normally. What would the system call be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted July 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2013 2♠ would be the normal, with less strength pass is also an alternative to avoid getting higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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