mr1303 Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt94h7642da3c&w=s52hj83dkqt62c974&n=s873hak95dj4caqj6&e=s6hqtd9875ckt8532&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp2cp2hp2sp3cp3sp4sp5dp5hp7sppp]399|300[/hv] It needs a lot. The auction was something extremely complicated, but I was dead chuffed to make 7S on this layout. How would you bid this in standard ish methods? I'm going to have North open a 15-17 NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 1N-2♥2♠-5♣(exclusion)5♥(1/4)-5N (anything else)6♣-6♦6♥-6/7♠ So partner has 15-17, A♣, AK♥, take your best guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 1N-2♥2♠-5♣(exclusion)5♥(1/4)-5N (anything else)6♣-6♦6♥-6/7♠ So partner has 15-17, A♣, AK♥, take your best guess. If it's a guess, then maybe bidding exclusion was nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 If it's a guess, then maybe bidding exclusion was nuts.I'm not sure you're going to find out any more, particularly as the first thing partner will tell you about is likely to be a club control which depending on methods you may not know if it's first or second round. I suspect the grand is seriously odds against so I'd just bid 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I'm not sure you're going to find out any more, particularly as the first thing partner will tell you about is likely to be a club control which depending on methods you may not know if it's first or second round. I suspect the grand is seriously odds against so I'd just bid 6. This auction was not the problem, since partner can bid grand with a trick source, but there are plenty of hands whre you can't make slam where we could have consulted partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I think this truly qualifies as an "interesting hand", and it seems from the outset to be one of the blast/guess situations. I will be breaking tempo and considering: --Will a transfer catch a double?--Will exclusion be useless with my 4 small hearts AND discourage a Club lead?--Will I wrong-side?--Will exploration do anything except leak information? 1N-6S :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I might bid it 1nt - 2♣, arrange to kc after the heart response ask for the queen and then bid 6♠ when it isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 I might bid it 1nt - 2♣, arrange to kc after the heart response ask for the queen and then bid 6♠ when it isn't there. Might you?Then you might just find partner withxxAKxxKQJx??? Note that this is only a 13 count. I am not saying that I have the answer, just that you need to think through your responses more carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 When one has a zero loser suit and it is the high(est) ranking it is possibleto temporarily show interest in a lower ranking suit to help gather usefulinformation about that 2nd suit. 1n 15-17 not crazy about it but anything else leads to different problems 2h transfer 2s accept 3h pretending to have 55+ majors GF 4c heart fit and cue bids (does not deny spade fit or control but hearts better) 4d cue 4h cant go beyond 4h since no spade control presented so far 4n 5c (03) 5d heart Q 5h no 5n Anything else?? 6h no 6s if p had been able to show either minor K 7 would seem plausible since all they have shown is !HAK and !CA pass has to respect since it is impossible to be looking for 7 missing heart Q and nothing extra. If p had not shown heart support originally it might be easier1n2h2s3h3s agrees to spades3n shows at least 2 of top 3 spade honors and slamming (any other cue bid would deny at least 2 of the top 3 honors and opener cannot proceed with cue bidding w/o at least 1 of top 3 honors).4c4dif p cannot bid 4h here we sign off4h a simple response denies all maximum holdings (any cue bid other than hearts would show a max plus heart control). Take it from there as we now have to imagine the future give and takedepending on the actual hand held by opener. Before using this type of bidding be sure all the future responses will helprather than hinder your search for information and don't be an incredibleoptimist search dispassionatley for information and make a rationaldecision based on probabilty from what you have learned (while taking into account the state of the match). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt94h7642da3c&w=s52hj83dkqt62c974&n=s873hak95dj4caqj6&e=s6hqtd9875ckt8532&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1cp2cp2hp2sp3cp3sp4sp5dp5hp7sppp]399|300|It needs a lot. The auction was something extremely complicated, but I was dead chuffed to make 7S on this layout.How would you bid this in standard ish methods? I'm going to have North open a 15-17 NT.[/hv] The grand seems be about 33%. Perhaps ...1N - 2♥1 -2♠ - 4♣2 -4♠ - 6♠3 -2♥ = Transfer4♣ = Auto-splinter.6♠ = Gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 [edited nonsense out. Still too early] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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