lycier Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 [hv=sn=000ffj,601821297,ilovebbo,madongjun|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S456AH48TJD9JC47J%2CS39QH269QKD6QC89Q%2CS278TH57D5KC236TA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2023%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CHJ%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CDA%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CD6%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CCJ%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CCT%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CST%7Cpc%7CSK%7C]499|350[/hv] 而另一桌： [hv=sn=wuhuan,kaisadadi,xhq,haikuo|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S456AH48TJD9JC47J%2CS39QH269QKD6QC89Q%2CS278TH57D5KC236TA%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2023%7Csv%7Cb%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C1N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2D%21%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C3N%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD9%7Cpc%7CDQ%7Cpc%7CDK%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC8%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC9%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CCK%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CH2%7Cpc%7CH7%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CHK%7Cpc%7CH5%7Cpc%7CHQ%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CHT%7Cmc%7C10%7C]499|350[/hv] 这类牌面至少在我们论坛我处过两道专贴讲解讨论了。开叫1nt比开叫1♦更具描述性，而且特别强调庄位的问题。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 15p时开叫任意花色的6张，在同伴一阶应叫后，其再叫都是按照低限处理的，不够跳叫的条件的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 嗯，当时短路了，一心想着这个7张套如何叫，忽略了全手牌的价值。防守做的相当出色。通常应对无将的首攻是高花，在这里，选择了长套低花。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 这幅牌还是有望打成的，我的庄不好，孤注一掷从明手出小D赌OOPS的D是22分布DK在北即可，当时顾虑重重最后还是没打对（有时别想太多凭感觉出牌也许是好事 :P ） Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 这幅牌还是有望打成的，我的庄不好，孤注一掷从明手出小D赌OOPS的D是22分布DK在北即可，当时顾虑重重最后还是没打对（有时别想太多凭感觉出牌也许是好事 :P ）不完全是这么回事，要让东家成为庄家最要紧，你也看到了吧，无保护的K放到明手位被打穿梭。那么为什么要开机1nt而不是1♦呢？普通的讲，这手半均型牌面其实是均型；以至于影响到了♦套的花色质量；多花色的K需要保护。这时候大家看到了吧，许多这样的知识不是书本教科书所都能解决的，牌里的许多奥秘，书本是不能阐述殆尽的！这就是论坛的好处。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 21, 2013 Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 多讨论，临场才能做出正确的决定！（我的理解：所谓“正确的决定”－－大部分情况下是正分的，当然反面的牌例也能找到） Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2013 多讨论，临场才能做出正确的决定！（我的理解：所谓"正确的决定"－－大部分情况下是正分的，当然反面的牌例也能找到） 嗯，当然了。也有正确决定得负分的情况。只想说，开叫1nt更合理一点，但不是没有损失的正确。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 15p时开叫任意花色的6张，在同伴一阶应叫后，其再叫都是按照低限处理的，不够跳叫的条件的。是7222的半均型，当时可能太看重这个7张了，忽略了“半均型”的本质特征。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 [hv=sn=金,木,水,火|st%7C%7Cmd%7C1S249TQHAD789KAC7Q%2CS78KH28QD4TC348KA%2CS3JAH357D5JC259TJ%2C%7Crh%7C%7Cah%7CBoard%2011%7Csv%7Co%7Cmb%7C1S%7Cmb%7C2C%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2H%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C2S%21%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7C3H%7Cmb%7C4D%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7C4S%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cd%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cmb%7Cp%7Cpc%7CCA%7Cpc%7CC2%7Cpc%7CC6%7Cpc%7CC7%7Cpc%7CC4%7Cpc%7CC5%7Cpc%7CS5%7Cpc%7CCQ%7Cpc%7CD3%7Cpc%7CD7%7Cpc%7CDT%7Cpc%7CDJ%7Cpc%7CH3%7Cpc%7CH9%7Cpc%7CHA%7Cpc%7CH8%7Cpc%7CS9%7Cpc%7CS7%7Cpc%7CS3%7Cpc%7CS6%7Cpc%7CS2%7Cpc%7CS8%7Cpc%7CSJ%7Cpc%7CH6%7Cpc%7CSA%7Cpc%7CH4%7Cpc%7CS4%7Cpc%7CSK%7Cpc%7CD5%7Cpc%7CD2%7Cpc%7CD8%7Cpc%7CD4%7Cpc%7CSQ%7Cpc%7CC3%7Cmc%7C11%7C]499|350[/hv] 这是今早打的牌，元芳，你怎么看？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 说说自己的观点：除了南之外，其他3家感觉都有点问题。西的问题最大，2s想描述什么呢？h配合了，GF？这个2h通常是不逼叫的，扣2s牌力明显不够啥，后面的4dpass然后4sx也是混乱的，opp4d后忽然认为自己不够叫4h了？既然不够叫4h了，后面又够叫4sx？北2c后就应该加叫2s，开始不叫2s，放出了东的h套，在opp2s后又跑去x？先pass然后在opp找到h配合后x2s是什么牌呢？2cpass是陷阱性的？反正我没整明白；东在pd扣叫2s被x后，3h又是什么意思呢？既然pd能扣2s，这个牌就够4h封局。而3h是表示最差的牌止叫？不担心丢4h？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaisadadi Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 西2S是一种H配合的邀请吧，牌力不够。多张H，少张D，可以。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted June 23, 2013 Report Share Posted June 23, 2013 如果我要是W会这样叫牌吗？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 南家在同伴PASS过2♣，自己又持有对方长套的单张A，在四阶叫出4♦的情况下，我觉得有点儿叫强了。是不是同伴对2♠的加倍表示支持，和自己的55双套牌型给了自己信心？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 2♠叫品也太牵强了，正常的12p，没有额外估值，以后3♥后，必须沉默而安心防守。责任全在西家读牌判断失误所致。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 我是北的话，会在2C后直接加叫2S。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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