Another suit combination

[HeartA]

K98

 

A10xx

 

You need three tricks.

 

I usually cash AK. But today, in a team match, I decided to play it differently and my 3N went down.

[Flame]

playing the K and then double finnesing seems better then the AK line.

You will lose to QJx ofside, but win the QJxx onside which is more likely.

not saying its the best line.

[EricK]

I think it is better to take an immediate finesse of the 8, followed by a finesse of the 9.

 

This gains over K first because I can change my plan if LHO has a void or small singleton.

 

Eric

[Fluffy]

small to the 8 loses to stiff honnors at rightm more likelly than voids.

[Flame]

The trick with small to the 9 is that when after it loses to the J/q on the second round you u play to the 8 and if LHO has a single you get a "second chance" and can raise up with the K and finnese to the other side.

[helium]

i usally play small to King and if no J/Q appear i let the 9 run and then let the 8 run next time.

 

 

 

kenneth

[EricK]

small to the 8 loses to stiff honnors at rightm more likelly than voids.

If there is a stiff honour on the right, the finesse on the next round wins and I still have A K to come for my 3 tricks.

 

Eric

[luke warm]

if you agree that 6 cards out split 4/2 more often than 3/3, then i think the odds of both the q and j being in the 4 card hand are slightly higher than them being split... for example, qjxx vs. xx is greater than qxxx vs. jx

 

not sure if that's true or not, but if it is i'd immediately finesse the 8.. if it loses, i'd next play the K and lead toward A, 10.. if rho follows, i'd finesse the 10

[arrows]

you agree that 6 cards out split 4/2 more often than 3/3, then i think the odds of both the q and j being in the 4 card hand are slightly higher than them being split... for example, qjxx vs. xx is greater than qxxx vs. jx

 

QJxx vs xx C(4, 2)= 4*3/2! = 6

 

Qxxx vs Jx C(4, 1) = 4

 

but in the context of this discussion, there's also Jxxx vs Qx

therefore , Hx doublton is 4:3 in favor given the suit split 4-2

I believe the right play is lay down King and Ace, it works on

any singlton or doublton honors or 3-3 split

[Guest Jlall]

low to the 9 then low to the 8. Picks up everything but QJ, QJx, and QJxx on right. king and run the 9 then run the 8 loses to QJx, QJxx, QJxxx, QJxxxx on left. So it comes down to which is more likely.

 

QJ or QJxxx+QJxxxx and the latter is definitely more likely so low to the 9 and low to the 8 is better.

[firechief]

I agree w/justin. This is fun always agreeing w/justin :( Give us a new combination and let justin answer it first again, pls B)

Joel

[mpefritz]

The worst part about all these suit combinations is finding out how wrong my natural instincts are. :(

 

fritz