Strong 1C or not

[mr1303]

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Do you open this a strong (16+) 1C.

 

Other options are something similar to a Precision style 1D.

[Hanoi5]

I prefer 1♦.

[CSGibson]

1♣, not even close.

 

Yeah, you have short suit quacks, but you are also 6-4 with good suits. Plus, it always makes for a smoother auction if you don't feel like you have to "catch up" later in the bidding. Open 1♣ now, and you've gotten the hand off your chest.

[JLOGIC]

+1, on top of that 6-4 in the minors is not a great hand for strong club, for instance if you rebid 2C partner will not be false preferencing much since you might be 4-5 in the minors, so you are downgrading into a tough rebid (I guess you chance 2C or bid 3D but 3D looks ugly also). I like this kind of thing more with 5-5 in the minors where if you can get a jump in clubs in you can describe your hand well, and also having 5-5 in the minors is tougher when you open 1C and it gets competitive.

[CamHenry]

Since I have a good method to show a minor two-suiter and then clarify it after a strong minor opening, I'm going for 1♣. I know I have less of merit in the majors than I might, but I *do* have two quick tricks for defence, and I think that's enough to counterbalance. Diamond spots are better than nothing as well.

[mycroft]

On the plus, I'm going to get more information in an uninterrupted strong club auction than my partner will in a diamond auction.

On the minus, somebody's got the majors, and if it is partner, we're in a misfit; if it's the opponents, we won't have an uninterrupted club auction (we won't have one after 1♦ either, but at least I've got my suit in, and when I do bid clubs again, I've shown max with real diamonds).

 

I'd go with 1♦ myself, but know that I may have to push a bit later (and maybe hide the clubs). I, too, would prefer 5-5.

[1eyedjack]

Personally I prefer 1D. Others have commented that you have a "catchup" problem. I don't see it that way, because in precision you can show a shapely maximum with jump rebids without fearing that partner will expect even more than you have. I have more fears about putting the brakes on after 1C, especially if the auction is at the 3 level before I even get a chance to mention a suit.

[HeartA]

I would open 1♣.

[FM75]

I would. We might have as little as a singleton diamond (technically even a void in our version) on a 1♦ opening bid, so if my next bid is 2♣ I am usually showing 5=4 in the minors 11-15. Partner can easily pass 1♦ with 8 points and support for either suit.

 

Opening 1♣ will get me a decent count of partner's holding. If there is an overcall before he bids, pass shows 0-4, double 5-7 or bad 8, and any other bid shows 8+. He can also show a 4441 hand with conventional bids.

 

Further, I expect opponents to overcall 1 ♦ almost certainly, and many will overcall 1♣ even with junk hoping to muck up the auction. In a competitive auction, with partner on low side, I am not concerned if he lebensohl's me into 3♣.

 

On a positive response I can ask for a fit in diamonds, then have a choice of handing off control to partner with 2N if that is still available.

[nige1]

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Do you open this a strong (16+) 1C.

Other options are something similar to a Precision style 1D.[/hv]

IMO 1♣ = 10, 1♦ = 7. Although 1♦ would start describing your shape, this hand is worth more than 16 HCP.

[akhare]

+1 for 1♣

[johnu]

Too quack heavy to evaluate to 16+ for me, and without the playing strength to upgrade to 1♣. If the 6 card suit was a major, I would consider 1♣ but 1♦ followed by a jump to 3♣if possible seems about right with this hand.