luke warm Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 Dealer: South Vul: NS Scoring: IMP ♠ AT965 ♥ AKJ32 ♦ 2 ♣ J3 West North East South - - - 1♠ Pass 2NT 4NT 2NT=Jacoby, 4NT=minors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 5♥ kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 5♥ nice bid... only one correct bid on this one tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sceptic Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 would a 5D cue be better as then your p may be able to bid 6H rather than pass? or would he bid 6!H over ur 5H anyway, or am I missing something here like a brain :)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 you're vulnerable, they aren't... your partner showed a 4+ card support forcing spade raise... 5♦, because of your hearts, forces 5♠, 6♣, or 6♠... i'm just trying to get a sense of what people would bid in that situation an added question is, what does partner need for the 2nt bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helium Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 an added question is, what does partner need for the 2nt bid? he prommis usally 13+ and 4+ cards ♠and hes unlimitid. so he could have"half the deck" and if u use splinter he dinies any void(singelton) kenneth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 yeah, that's my thinking too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 I would bid 5D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 5D Like to play 2nt a bit stronger.stiff or void showing weaker often losing trick of 7.3nt=14-16 4333 with only 3 card support4c=17+ and 4333 with only 3 card support4d=5 trumps and only one outside ACE or 1.0-1.5 outside quick tricks1 major=4 major=weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luis Posted January 8, 2005 Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 5♥ Two suiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2005 unfortunately, i bid 6s... the only "winning" bid was pass[hv=d=n&v=n&n=sat965hakj32d2cj3&w=sjh8dqt875caqt874&e=s4ht97654daj3c652&s=skq8732hqdk964ck9]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] West North East South - 1♠ Pass 2NT 4NT 6♠ Pass Pass Pass as you can see, 5C or 5D is off at least one... my thinking at the time was, the 4nt bid already insured a bad result unless *maybe* i sign off in 5S and 6 doesn't make... i was influenced by what i perceived the 2NT bid would look like, but jumping to 6S was probably wrong ... i just could see no way to salvage any kind of score short of slam btw, i wouldn't personally bid 2NT with the south hand, but even over 4H west bids 4NT... also, others playing e/w also bid 4nt, but n/s ended up in the same boat... the ones who made either got no interference else all easts led hearts, even knowing west had minors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 5♥ is more than a cue bid; it should show a suit, or least a concentration of values. Pard's minor suit kings are wallpaper on this auction; Mike will gladly sign off in 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 wasn't playing with mike this time, but i'm thinking that once west bid 4nt, the best n/s can do is e/w 5m off one, doubled... limit of n/s hand is 4S, if east leads a club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Its totally double dummy to knock off 5 of a minor with an 11 card fit and a 5-5 in one hand. Congratulate West for a nice bid and move on. Even if North makes a FP; I'd be shocked for South to do anything but 5♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 9, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 that's exactly what i did, phil... msg'd him and said "nice bid"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 I think 5♥ is the best bid here: no immediate slam ambition, true ♥s as well. Partner should bid 5♠ with his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think 5♥ is the best bid here: no immediate slam ambition, true ♥s as well. Partner should bid 5♠ with his hand. Also think 5♥ is the best without first round minor control ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think 5♥ is the best bid here: no immediate slam ambition, true ♥s as well. Partner should bid 5♠ with his hand. 5H must show slam interest. I admit I will bid to at least 5S and go down. This should be credit to opp's high level intevention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think 5♥ is the best bid here: no immediate slam ambition, true ♥s as well. Partner should bid 5♠ with his hand. 5H must show slam interest. I admit I will bid to at least 5S and go down. This should be credit to opp's high level intevention I disagree. If you have slam ambition, you can easily bid one of the minors for cue... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I think 5♥ is the best bid here: no immediate slam ambition, true ♥s as well. Partner should bid 5♠ with his hand. 5H must show slam interest. I admit I will bid to at least 5S and go down. This should be credit to opp's high level intevention I disagree. If you have slam ambition, you can easily bid one of the minors for cue... Yes, I didnt cue them cause I dont have them. If you have no ambition but want to play at the five level, why not simply bid 5S? 5S shows no interest in slam, so 5H must show interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 5H I think is showing what you have, and leaving it to partner to make the correct decision. Just because you might not have huge slam interest, partner might well do. And if you don't bid Jacoby 2NT with the South hand, what else do you do? SPlinter is awful, since for partner to cue a minor suit ace takes you past 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mila85 Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 I don't know what is the best here. But I remeber two general rules we use.-When opponents bid two suits we use them to show our suits and strong hand.e.g.1s-2nt(minors)-?3c are heards and strong hand, 3d show spade fit, 3h and 3s is passable. -When GF was made pass is forcing. Does any of them apply here? And what does dbl. show now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinywingz Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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