wangzhi123 Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 敌方花色没点不能加倍!这类牌叫就是输100!不叫可能500到600!加倍必须保证对方花色有点!这种情况实战极其多!如果我是老师,就把这几个例子给同学科普 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 这牌5h铁的,!5c对家没加倍,肯定c上无点,要不就是对家不会!5♥不是铁的,就如实战的防守,连攻三轮方块,就宕一了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 这牌防守是没有赢墩的,无对有,我会5H这个是针对1楼,南家的答案吧?针对5楼的北家,是不是就很犹豫呢? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 实战图:[hv=sn=S&s=SK9754HKJ954D852C&wn=W&w=SJ63HQ87D3CKQ9752&nn=N&n=SATHAT632DQJT6CT3&en=E&e=SQ82HDAK974CAJ864&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=PP1H2N(C+D)4H5CPP5HPPDPPP&p=DAD2D3D6DKD5C2DQD4D8H8DJC5C3C6H4H5H7HAC4H2D7HKHQS4S3&c=10]499|380[/hv]由叫牌进程可以知道,对♥定约首攻和对♣定约的首攻都比较容易。这种畸形分布的牌,要小心又小心…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted June 9, 2013 Report Share Posted June 9, 2013 我总是这么分析这种类似局面:1、我方如果是单张,要确保完成5阶定约联手要在23p,如果我方有缺门,联手要19p才能确保完成定约,否则就是需要根据叫牌来判断是否存在大牌的增值情况。2、分析敌方也是这样,敌方如果是单张,要确保完成5阶定约联手要在23p,如果敌方有缺门,联手要19p才能确保完成定约,否则就是需要根据叫牌来判断是否存在大牌的增值情况。3、敌方是否有缺门,往往无法确信,但是自己联手情况往往可以判断正确。具体到这副牌,我方要想完成5s联手要23p,自己的ck是否能增值是未知的,因此显然自己完成5s定约机会不大。再看敌方,双方牌力至少是相当的,因此敌方要想完成5h定约的关键是要有缺门,通过这么的逻辑思考后,根据临场的感觉再进一步分析,往往距离正确决定就不远了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuefeier Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 可以5H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuefeier Posted June 12, 2013 Report Share Posted June 12, 2013 慎重上五,慎重加倍,风阳分析的很好 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 13, 2013 Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 慎重上五,慎重加倍,风阳分析的很好 看到xuefeier真诚热爱桥牌,积极参与讨论,并花了很多时间在论坛学习,彻底改变了以前的习惯,让我们大家你那颗挚爱桥牌的心,那么这里我要对你说一句:请去华娱世界论坛的中国桥牌俱乐部会员申请注册贴下跟帖申请吧,欢迎你正式加入俱乐部。http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/uploads/profile/photo-9211.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq98hkq642dcaj875&d=e&v=n&b=2&a=1d2n(H+C)5ddppp]133|200[/hv]问题是:1、5♦(可能阻击,可能想打,你如何判断?)后,北的加倍承诺对同伴花色(2NT表示红心和草花套55以上)地支持吗?什么牌力?2、你会在同伴加倍5♦后,继续竞叫5♥呢还是PASS(象实战那样)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llllsj Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 pass.没有任何额外的东西,听同伴的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 这牌南家有凭大牌点力加倍的想法,老师说加倍就是惩罚,pass就是逼叫,那么可以这样理解如果南家此时pass,北家就必竟叫到5S吗? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 沙师兄说的对呀,我记下了,真的记本子上了。至于DVD朋友说的2S不该争叫我不敢同意。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 在敌我双方将牌均配合的情况下,高阶加倍是合作性加倍,加倍者想竞叫而不能独自判断是惩罚好还是竞叫好,那么采用合作性加倍是询问PD,“我想竞叫,你认为是惩罚就PASS,如果也想竞叫就叫出来。” 很明显南家面对5H这牌有防守实力而没有竞叫实力,应当PASS,由PD决定是PASS还是加倍。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 5级订约属于敌方,我不敢再竟叫5阶。加倍是惩罚,pass是逼叫,我竟叫5阶。沙师兄讲联手有空门19P即可叫上5阶,这牌我遇到以后肯定叫到5阶。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 这个其实就是对opp的阻击叫牌,技术性x用到多少阶的问题,通常约定到4h或4s。但到5阶还技术x的就很少见了,所以5dx就是惩罚了哈。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 加倍就是惩罚,不能再叫了。感谢东方拿出的4个牌面,我从中学到了很多东西。谢谢! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 叫2NT的一般是55双套实力不高(一般略带阻击,最多开叫实力),已经表达清楚。加倍5D就是惩罚(不愿再叫5H或6C),加倍5D后PASS。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 不应该再叫5H,否则前后矛盾,直接跳4H已经说明了带阻击性只够4H的实力,面对5C要么PASS,要么采用合作性加倍,不可独自上5H,应由开叫方决定上不上。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 就叫牌序列而言,敌方实力一般(因为对弱2S直接4H,而开叫方对4S也只能PASS),那么对5H还是那句话,合作性加倍而不是独自去争5S。 同意DVD的看法,第二家拿一手这样没主打实力的牌去阻击争叫是不合适的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 X只是有实力,不是纯粹的技术或者惩罚性,现在除了PASS没什么别的好叫了。5530的牌视为双套并不是太好,第一轮我会X。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 opps在争叫2nt表示♣+♥ 5-5套,我的正常尺度的叫牌计划是: X=至少对♣或♥一门花色有防守赢墩或额外长度。鼓励同伴在opps在3阶上对opps花色有赢墩时,作出惩罚性加倍。扣叫3♣=对♦的邀请进局,逼叫。加叫3♦=建设性加叫,不逼叫。扣叫3♥=逼局,通常是对♦的逼局,也有可能是持有♠套的逼局。争叫3♠=竟叫性叫品,不逼叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 你是如何理解北家在OPP的5D后的叫品的含义?加倍是惩罚性的。叫花色是竞叫性的。pass是逼叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 这是在俱乐部里打的牌。四手牌如下:[hv=pc=n&s=sa872htd86caj9753&w=st96haj74dkt5ct84&n=skqj543h63dq73ck6&e=shkq9852daj942cq2]399|300[/hv]实战中,首攻CA后转攻SA,庄家将吃,清将后打对方块,结果完成5HX+1. 现在请问:南家的加倍对吗? 不知道你究竟是怎样想的,争叫2♣我是不会的。再说了,争叫2♣也不够严肃。对于我们体系而言,头一口叫非常关键,应该做顶底扣叫2♥表示:S4张,♣6张情况,同时还暗示♠短而弱,♣长而强。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted June 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 不知道你究竟是怎样想的,争叫2♣我是不会的。再说了,争叫2♣也不够严肃。对于我们体系而言,头一口叫非常关键,应该做顶底扣叫2♥表示:S4张,♣6张情况,同时还暗示♠短而弱,♣长而强。是的,如果是我,也不会争叫2♣的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted June 14, 2013 Report Share Posted June 14, 2013 这样在后续的叫品和决定就会出现错误,导致进入:不要相信同伴的叫牌的怪圈。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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