ggwhiz Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 Double and 5♥ are all eggs in one basket bids and I'm not comfortable with either should we be opposite 4 cards in hearts with bad breaks looming. Since I don't consider either bid to be clear cut, the decision ALWAYS belongs to pass out seat. In this case a 3rd seat opener could have anything from power to shape with both or a bit of a joke. Is North diving or giving up on slam? Only pard knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted June 8, 2013 Report Share Posted June 8, 2013 I think playing forcing pass and/or playing double for a specific meaning, rather than natural is odd in this auction.. In a competitive auction, where nobody knows who has the strength and everyone bidding, and 1 side reaching 5 level. This is like the border area between El Paso Texas and Juarez Mexico. All bad things happen there and you just can not disable yourself from passing and sitting on a 5 level contract, without your pass indicating anything other than what it actually says If we play some sort of forcing pass here, i don't see an end to it. We may as well play it everywhere. "Oh, i have balanced 6 hcp, but my cards seems to fit pd's hand! Lets create a pdship agreement which makes our pass forcing in order to cover these type of hands, in this type of auctions, because forcing passesand/or doubles solves 5 level decisions perfectly !" In fact, i don't see any bid better than a natural pass here. We are sitting behind 2♣ overcaller, and we would definetely dbl with any numberof ♣ trick(s). If pd is void in clubs, he knows we dont have wasted values there. He is either 5431 6430 5530 5521 etc. In most cases if we held ♦ values instead of ♠ A, that would be useful as well. So pd knows whatever we have will be working, by simply looking at our natural pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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