benlessard Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saj94ha9dakt93c75&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1dp1hp1sp1np2np3sp]133|200[/hv] All is natural, no discussion with a "A" player that i rarely play with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 If I have shown what I hold, I don't really need to know why partner envisions game in the 4-3 fit; I will find that out when the dummy comes down. My stuff is prime for suit play, not soft and notrumpish; so she is probably right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 30, 2013 Report Share Posted May 30, 2013 4♠ looks obvious. Maybe partner has something like KQx Kxxxx xx xxx or KQx xxxx xxx Axx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Ive bid 4H thinking that it should show Hx and decent spades because IMO Ive already denied having 3H by bidding 2NT do you agree ? The side question is that if partner has 5 decent H and 3 good S will bid 3H or 3S ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Could opened 1NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 Partner bids diamonds, spades, raises no trumps and now you worry about getting back to hearts? :o 3♥ over 2NT should definitely not show good hearts - it's a baby Bluhmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 After the auction to 2NT, I think you might still want to play in hearts. I think 3♥ just shows something like ♥KQJxx and a flakey club stop. With the baby-Bluhmer type, you will usually have a hand suitable for 3♦ or 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 I was thinking that p has diamond shortness and that I'd bid 3NT because I don't really need to ruff diamonds. But maybe I do need it, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 After the auction to 2NT, I think you might still want to play in hearts. I think 3♥ just shows something like ♥KQJxx and a flakey club stop. With the baby-Bluhmer type, you will usually have a hand suitable for 3♦ or 3♠. The hand you describe is sounding rather like: ♠Jxx♥KQJxx♦xx♣Qxx? It sounds a bit weird to me. Am I playing pard for: ♠AQxx♥Ax♦KQJxx♣Jx? I'll take my chances in 3NT. For me, 3♠: ♠Kxx♥Axxxx♦x ♣Jxxx I'm nailed on to have a stiff diamond, so partner can visualise whether a cross-ruff/scramble is appropriate. 3♥: ♠Kxx♥xxxx♦Kx♣Kxxx It's pretty specific. 3♣ would be the same with five decent clubs and 2425 or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 The hand you describe is sounding rather like: ♠Jxx♥KQJxx♦xx♣Qxx? It sounds a bit weird to me. Am I playing pard for: ♠AQxx♥Ax♦KQJxx♣Jx? No, you're playing partner for AKxx Ax KQJxx xx or KQxx Ax AKJxx xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 4♠ looks obvious. Maybe partner has something like KQx Kxxxx xx xxx or KQx xxxx xxx Axx. If pard holds the right cards 4♠ is on.If pard holds the wrong cards 3♠ is iffy.Kxx Qxxxx xx KJx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted May 31, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 IMO any hand with half a stopper partner will bid 3C over 2Nt. I also think that with a 18-19 balanced I will bid 3NT because im using 2NT for 16-17 with 5D. So in a strong NT setup my hand cannot be balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 If pard holds the right cards 4♠ is on.If pard holds the wrong cards 3♠ is iffy.Kxx Qxxxx xx KJx.If partner holds the wrong cards for his bidding, it's hardly surprising that you reach the wrong contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 31, 2013 Report Share Posted May 31, 2013 p wishes to accept game try but feels it is possible thatfour spades (43 fit) may be superior to 3n. IMO this opinionis much more likely to be correct if responder has a partialdia fit and no club stopper and a max. Something like KQx Kxxxx Qx xxx If the 1d 1h 1s auction did not promise an unbalanced hand thenresponder might even have a hand like KQx Kxxxx Qxx xx where theycould not bid 2d and had to choose 1n. 3d (over 2n) would have sounded like a sign off and a fear of nt and weak so that bid was unavailable. The lack of a club stopper makes responder (rightly) fear 3n so responder is offering opener a variety of places to play 3s 3n 4d 4h 4s 5d might all be reasonablechoices for opener (though passing 3s would be more of a unilateraldecision with a very low % probability of being right). It has been suggested that being short in diamonds should be a requirement but the shortness should instill caution rather makinga bid from which there is no return to safety. A hand similar toKQx Kxxxx x xxxx should be more than happy to pass 2n rather thanbidding 3s. If clubs are a problem the 4 card spade suit will haveto do the ruffing and there is a really good chance we will need a33 spade split to bring 4s home (Ive seen worse). With a hand likeKQx KQxxx x xxxx being at tippy top for the bidding one could forgivea slightly overly aggressive 3s bid since we have a ton of power forgame just not sure if anything is right:)))))) IF the 1d 1h 1s auction promised an unbalanced hand this is even more crucial since responder could have easily chosen to bid 2/3d vs1n with a dia fit a hand like KQx Kxxxx Qxx xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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