deep Posted May 28, 2013 Report Share Posted May 28, 2013 5°Major diamond 4° 1° Question [hv=pc=n&s=s8hat8742dqj2ck75&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1np2dp2h2s]133|200[/hv] 2♦ is transfer for ♥Now South what better bid: 3♠ or stop 4♥? 2° question [hv=pc=n&s=saq9875432hdacj84&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=pp]133|200[/hv] Now South what better bid 1♠ or 4♠? Ty at all for help me :) sorry for my bad english Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 1- East did not bid spades previous round. He is bidding now probably he doesnt wanna sell out to 2♥ (prebalancing). He is not trying to show lead either since he will be on lead. So his 2♠ bid doesn't neccesarilly mean he has a lot of spade values. Assuming that you play texas, now you can bid 3♠ followed by 4♥ whatever pd cues, or just simply bid 4♥, which means slam try (or you would start with texas having no interest other than game) 2- I always try to avoid debating freak hands. Both 1♠ and 4♠ has merits. Yes we can make slam but hard to tell how the auction will proceed if we open 1♠, in my system pd can not even bid 2[c;] natural for example, that would be drury. I would go with 4♠ because i probably won't know whether we have slam or not even if i open 1♠, so why give them a lot of room to tell their own stories ? Believe me this won't be uncontested auction and i am not sure how well we will do at 5 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 1. When you responded 2♦ to 1NT, was this because you intended to try for slam? If not, you should have used Texas 4♦ to get to 4♥ directly (assuming that you play Texas Transfers). Now, the auction is going to get complicated. If you want to try for slam, then I agree with Ace that 3♠ is the right call over 2♠. You have a heart suit and game forcing values. If you want to make a "mild slam try," then 4♥ is the call. Transferring to hearts followed by a game bid is a "mild slam try" since you could have signed off in 4♥ by using 4♦ Texas (again, assuming that you play Texas Transfers). This hand is worth a mild slam try, whatever that means. 2. I would open 1♠, as slam chances are significant. Opposite nothing more than Jxx of spades and the KQ of clubs, slam is nearly 100% (have to account for A and another club - ruffed, or a ruff of the first round of diamonds while the opps are still on lead as very small adverse possibilities). Figuring out if a slam is there may not be easy, but I don't think that you have to bash 4♠ to keep the opps out of the auction. One of the opps has already passed, so the chances that they are going to find a useful contract of their own have decreased, and you do have more than your share of HCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 2. I would open 1♠, as slam chances are significant. Opposite nothing more than Jxx of spades and the KQ of clubs, slam is nearly 100% (have to account for A and another club - ruffed, or a ruff of the first round of diamonds while the opps are still on lead as very small adverse possibilities). Figuring out if a slam is there may not be easy, but I don't think that you have to bash 4♠ to keep the opps out of the auction. One of the opps has already passed, so the chances that they are going to find a useful contract of their own have decreased, and you do have more than your share of HCP. How are you planning to bid Art ? And i will give you an uncontested auction for the sake of argument. I will give your pd ♠ K I will give your pd no ♥ hcps I will give him no ♦ values I will give your pd KQx or AKx ♣ 1♠--1NT? I mean i agree with everything u said but there is other side of the coin. Yes you need a little to make slam or even grandslam, but a max hand by pd may not be enough to make 5 also, and you know there is a good chance you will be pushed to 5 level if you go slow, on your way to wonder about the magic cards pd may hold. Despite the 9 card spades, you don't even have a solid trump to start with. Yes RHO is coming from pass but, so does your pd, He has 0-10 hcp, very likely short in spades and we expect him not to hold his values in red suits, even if he has any values. I know everyone finds the cards pd has in BBF accurately. But i gave them all to your pd + uncontested auction for the sake of argument, so give me a convincing and objective auction that allows you to find that slam, when at the same time the same auction doesn not become costly in some other hands. 2. I would open 1♠, as slam chances are significant. Opposite nothing more than Jxx of spades and the KQ of clubs, slam is nearly 100% What are the chances of finding these cards, in real life, when someone doesn't give them to you for the sake of argument ? And what are the combined chances of knowing them and bidding accurately our slam ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 On the first hand, trying for slam is nuts. You need an perfect with length in diamonds, eg: ♠xxx♥KQx♦AKxx♣Axx Yes, a doubleton club might make it good as well, but you will get too high twice for every good slam you reach. On the second hand I open 1♠. Going slow on freaks has many ways to win. It's much harder for them to double 4♠ if we open it, and I want to play in 4♠ doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 29, 2013 Report Share Posted May 29, 2013 On the first hand, trying for slam is nuts. You need an perfect with length in diamonds, eg: ♠xxx♥KQx♦AKxx♣Axx Yes, a doubleton club might make it good as well, but you will get too high twice for every good slam you reach. On the second hand I open 1♠. Going slow on freaks has many ways to win. It's much harder for them to double 4♠ if we open it, and I want to play in 4♠ doubled. On hand 1 there other hands that makes slam look good too, xxx KQx Ax AQxxx or Axx KQx xx AQxxx and they don't lead ♦ Axx KQx AKxxx xx etc etc .But i agree it is small target.Hand 2, Knowing my preempts, my chances of being doubled in 4♠ is higher :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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