xhq Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 在哈代大师的《21世纪二盖一》下册里，开叫人开叫1NT，应叫人采用沃尔什接力叫表达他持有满贯特征的单套牌，接力完成后哈代大师只简单地描述了满贯试探的常用手段，询问特征长套的确切张数及短门所在，哈代大师却没有描述。大师在他的第一版里却对询问长套张数及短门所在进行了描述。应叫人完成接力后，开叫人叫最便宜的叫品为问长套确切张数，应叫人按级回答（6张、7张、8张……）；开叫人再继续接力问短套所在，应叫人答叫5接水平花色为单张，6阶水平花色为缺门。另外，3NT表示有一个至少为六张的完整坚固套，整手牌刚好七个赢墩（定义过于死板），假如是六个赢墩或八个赢墩的完整坚固套如何描述呢？把3NT定义为“一个至少为六张的完整坚固套”比较合适。下面请看牌例： [hv=pc=n&w=sak63h95dakq7cjt7&e=s872hakqj8743d65c&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1np2dp2hp2sp2np3np4cp4sp4np6cp7hppp]266|200[/hv]1、2♦开始接力叫；2、2♥按要求叫；3、2♠取消♥转移；4、2NT按要求叫；5、3NT有一至少6张坚实套；6、4♣问长套张数；7、4♠回答长套张数8张；8、4NT问短套所在；9、♣缺门；10、7♥太帮了，要的就是你有八张红心套和梅花缺门。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 我的用法：[hv=d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1np2d(transfer)p2hp4c(7+H%20void%20C)p4s(RKC)p5h(2+Q)p6c(ask%20for%2013th%20trick)p7hppp]133|100[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 楼主：3nt的叫品含义是：有一个强套，满手正好七赢墩！您看你手中正好八赢墩了。前置条件不可以随便变动，否则物是前非。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxt08 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 [hv=d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1np2dp2hp5cp5sp6cp7hppp]133|100[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxt08 Posted May 25, 2013 Report Share Posted May 25, 2013 沃尔什接力叫,真的很好,21世纪2/1中是用低花试满贯,但也含有AKQXXX的任意坚强套,谢谢贴主 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynhhyjb Posted June 7, 2013 Report Share Posted June 7, 2013 我的用法：[hv=d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1np2d(transfer)p2hp4c(7+H%20void%20C)p4s(RKC)p5h(2+Q)p6c(ask%20for%2013th%20trick)p7hppp]133|100[/hv]4c哈代的书可不是象你所说这样规定的，1NT的应叫感觉五花八门，俱乐部里应该确定一个大家能接受的公共约定 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xuefeier Posted June 11, 2013 Report Share Posted June 11, 2013 3NT表示至少为六张的完全坚固的长套，整手牌刚好七个赢墩，我想知道超过七个赢墩还可以用这个接力吗？就这副牌用的效果是很不错的哦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhq Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 3NT表示至少为六张的完全坚固的长套，整手牌刚好七个赢墩，我想知道超过七个赢墩还可以用这个接力吗？就这副牌用的效果是很不错的哦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xhq Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 这正是我发这个帖子的意思，还是雪菲儿理解正确！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
llllsj Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 学习 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laidong1 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 首先，对楼主发贴表示敬意！如今桥牌已是竞叫激烈的时代。弱弱地问一声，楼主这副牌OPPS手里有10张草花，难道OPPS不会插叫一口？反正俺这个菜鸟会叫一口的。那岂不是无法接力了？俺认为这一系列是实验室产品，实战很少用得上！倒是我想，拿到w-E 牌遇到争叫这么才能叫到7H。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjhyyzy Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 楼主所介绍的约定叫象是一个淘汰版的，没有必要。lxt08的方法就很好，转移后应叫人再用5♣作缺门关键问叫，当关键张不缺时再用5NT或6♣作大满邀请，叫到7♥很正常。如OPPS争叫♣东西正可借力叫上7♥。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 我理解定义为满手正好7个赢墩的目的是，此时正在满贯边缘，因为开叫人1nt=15-17，40p=13墩，那么大概开叫人的赢墩为（15-17）*13/40=4.5-5.5之间，正是不能轻易直接问叫的。楼主说的应叫人8个赢墩的话可以直接发动问叫的，多伴有至少12墩，因此不需要特殊的手段。后续确实要约，比如1n-2d-2h-2s-2n-3c/d/h/s之后到底该如何继续？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 沃尔什接力以前常用来作低花满冠试探，这种用法学习了。只是抗干扰性如何？一旦理解错误定将时有没有叫冒可能？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgm Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 這序列太遲表達♣單缺；運氣差的話♣跟♠對調5♥也不成 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvd Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 使用这个接力，在pd2d后有h4张配合时，自己只能用3s表示高限配合，而失去其它表达自己牌情的手段，这是一个巨大的缺陷。我认为就得失比来说，这个接力失大于得，属于一个比较老的约定叫了，建议淘汰。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 这个约定叫能用上的时候比较少，还是约的简单点好，不常用的东西偶尔用之会出现误会，我想这可能是哈代大师在第二版中删减的原因吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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