pclayton Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=skqxxhxdqtxcktxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] East.....South.....West.....North1♦.......Pass.....2♥.......2♠3♥.......4♥......Dbl.......RdblPass.....4♠.....Pass.....5♦Pass.......? 1. 2♥ is preemptive2. Rdbl promises 1st round control of ♥'s Your call? Side note: what would you say the difference is between 4♦ and 4♥ - at round 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 man... i'd wimp out and bid 5s i guess... your pard has a ♥ void else rkc i'd guess... but the diamonds scare me... as to what 4♦ would be, i have no idea :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 5s esp at MP. My thinking is p did not start with an X and this is an underpoint slam and suits may not break well. Hopefully going plus at 5S will be winning bridge if not TOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cf_John0 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 5s esp at MP. My thinking is p did not start with an X and this is an underpoint slam and suits may not break well. Hopefully going plus at 5S will be winning bridge if not TOP. 5♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 You cue the suit you control, so 4♥ show ♥ contrrol redouble shows first round contrrol 4♠ shows minimum 5♦ shows no ♣ control There is no way I am gonna deny a control to an unlimited hadn after a negative, 6♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Clearly, pard has no club control. The problem is if he has AJTxxAxxAxxxx or AJTxxAxxAKxxx (or eventually a spade more and a diamond less) Since with the 1st hand he might have not made a slam try, I should play him for the 2nd. But in that case, what does opener have?? Did he open 1D on xQxxJxxxxAQJx Unless opener is a maverick, I don't believe it. Someone is overbidding and my guess is pard is the one. I sign-off 5S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joker_gib Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 You cue the suit you control, so 4♥ show ♥ contrrol redouble shows first round contrrol 4♠ shows minimum 5♦ shows no ♣ control There is no way I am gonna deny a control to an unlimited hadn after a negative, 6♠. I'm with you, Fluffy ! After I showed minimum with 4♠, my partner insist towards slam only lacking ♣ control ! I have it so I bid it : 6♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 6♠, otherwise 5♦ is a crazy bid... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Can we bid 5H to show ♣ control, but not sure of slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 5, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 At the table I tried 6♠. It seemed I could put pard on either: Axxxxx, Ax, Axx, xx or more hopefully: Axxxxx, Axx, Ax, xx. 6♠ is ok on the first hand and fantastic on the 2nd. Unfortunately, he held: Axxxx, A, Axxxx, Qx. I don't care for 5♦ much, diamonds are going to be overruffed in dummy, and thats if I have the hoped-for shortness. We discussed the 4♦ / 4♥ cue. With this pard; 4♥ is the heavier bid; it probably shows an offshape max that couldn't compete over 1♦. 4♦ shows the hand I had. With my other pard, we decided that the cue shows the control in the red suit with no reference to strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Great Post Phil. Perhaps I am getting conservative in my old age but in my short time back at bridge it seems at the table p has the poor hand types after opp open the bidding. In the magazine bridge quizzes p has the better hand types after opp open the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Presumably 2H is WJS. Pd is concerned with club control and I have Ck, which looks like behind the CA after RHO's opening. I would bid 6S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 It seemed I could put pard on either: Axxxxx, Ax, Axx, xx or more hopefully: Axxxxx, Axx, Ax, xx. 6♠ is ok on the first hand and fantastic on the 2nd. Am I seeing this right? KQxx.....Axxxxxx...........AxQTx.......AxxKTxxx....xx is hopeless unless clubs are 3-3. And KQxx.....Axxxxxx...........AxxQTx.......AxKTxxx....xx requires trumps 2-2, no? Far from fantastic, I think. Unfortunately, he held: Axxxx, A, Axxxx, Qx. I don't care for 5♦ much, diamonds are going to be overruffed in dummy, and thats if I have the hoped-for shortness. This confirmed my impression pard was overbidding :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 It seemed I could put pard on either: Axxxxx, Ax, Axx, xx or more hopefully: Axxxxx, Axx, Ax, xx. 6♠ is ok on the first hand and fantastic on the 2nd. Am I seeing this right? KQxx.....Axxxxxx...........AxQTx.......AxxKTxxx....xx is hopeless unless clubs are 3-3. And KQxx.....Axxxxxx...........AxxQTx.......AxKTxxx....xx requires trumps 2-2, no? Far from fantastic, I think. Unfortunately, he held: Axxxx, A, Axxxx, Qx. I don't care for 5♦ much, diamonds are going to be overruffed in dummy, and thats if I have the hoped-for shortness. This confirmed my impression pard was overbidding :P Your right on the 1st; require clubs 3-3. On the 2nd; we have 10 trump; so it only requires 4-2 clubs and 2-1 spades and the A♣ onside. Virtually cold on this auction, I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I am curious to know what a 5 heart bid would mean overall at this point. I would interpret it as indicating a heart control, and it should imply a club control. Otherwise, why ask P for something that he/she already implied not having (assuming 5D denied a club control). Do I have more, the same, or less than I showed by bidding 4H? Does P's 5D bid improve or worsen my hand. My diamond cards don't appear to be much given the diamond bid on my right, but a heart control might be the information P needs to bid or not bid 6. I hope the rewind of 4HX shows 1st round control. Key cards alone apparently aren't partner's concern- had another bid for that. lol I never get these situations right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 On the 2nd; we have 10 trump; so it only requires 4-2 clubs and 2-1 spades and the A♣ onside. Virtually cold on this auction, I'd say. lol.. I must be getting old. Of course it's cold. (well.. almost.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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