Walsh relay for major suit slam tries

[wyman]

Playing (a flavor of?) WR, we define:

 

1N - 2D!;

2H - 2S!;

2N! -

... 3C = 6+ clubs, slammish, bad suit [missing (at least?) 2 of the top 3 clubs]

... 3D = 6+ diam, slammish, bad suit

... 3H = 6+ clubs, slammish, good suit

... 3S = 6+ diam, slammish, good suit

... 3N = slammish with 6 solid somewhere [optionally -- I've heard of people just treating this as "good suit"]

 

And from what I gather, the "full" WR also uses 4C/D/H/S to show major suit slam tries H bad / S bad / H good / S good

 

So my question is what anyone who plays a full WR now does with the sequence:

1N - 2(M-1);

2M - 4M

since the hand didn't WR.

[bd71]

Playing (a flavor of?) WR, we define:

 

1N - 2D!;

2H - 2S!;

2N! -

... 3C = 6+ clubs, slammish, bad suit [missing (at least?) 2 of the top 3 clubs]

... 3D = 6+ diam, slammish, bad suit

... 3H = 6+ clubs, slammish, good suit

... 3S = 6+ diam, slammish, good suit

... 3N = slammish with 6 solid somewhere [optionally -- I've heard of people just treating this as "good suit"]

 

And from what I gather, the "full" WR also uses 4C/D/H/S to show major suit slam tries H bad / S bad / H good / S good

 

So my question is what anyone who plays a full WR now does with the sequence:

1N - 2(M-1);

2M - 4M

since the hand didn't WR.

 

Don't know that I have a great answer to your direct question, but two questions/comments:

 

1. See this recent thread where Jlall throws cold water on the idea of using the transfer-then-bid-4 sequence as "mild slam try." http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/60157-mild-medium-or-spicy/

 

2. I've never used this good/bad suit approach for slam exploration in this context or any other. But seems like you have keycard/ace-asking approaches to find out about the top 3 trumps. Is your thinking that this approach adds value because it let's you avoid more 5-level contracts (following RKC sequences that discovered lack of key assets) that might not be safe, or because it solves the minor-suit issues where there may not be room for the full complement of RKC responses?