Phil Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sk72ha83d983cakqj&n=sqt6543hj5dkqt5c9&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1np2hp2sp3sp4sppp]266|200[/hv] Swiss. Student presented this to me today. Opening lead is the ♥K (edited). PTP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Would start winning the ♥A then 2 rounds of ♣s pitching the ♥ loser from North. ♦ toward K (I can postpone the ♥ ruffs for now). If the ♦K wins, lead small ♠ toward the K. Would want to know more about what appears before going further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinst22 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 My gut instinct is to win AH and run 4 rounds of clubs pitching a heart and 2 diamonds, but first I'd be curious what cards are played on the first 2 rounds of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sk72ha83d983cakqj&n=sqt6543hj5dkqt5c9&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=1np2hp2sp3sp4sppp]266|200| Phil writes "Swiss. Student presented this to me today. Opening lead is a low heart. Spot is unknown, as are the opponents agreements. PTP."[/hv] IMO: ♥A then run ♣s, discarding a ♥ and two ♦s unless somebody ruffs - if ♣ are 4-4, then cater for 4-0 trump break. ♠ 2 If LHO follows, then finesse ♠T. If an opponent ruffs the 2nd club, discard a heart anyway. And hope to guess ♠ and ♦. If LHO ruffs the 3rd or 4th ♣ then over-ruff. And hope to guess ♠ and ♦. if RHO ruffs the 3rd ♣ then hope to guess ♠ and ♦ if RHO ruffs the 4th ♣ then hope to guess ♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 IMO: ♥A then run ♣s, discarding a ♥ and two ♦s unless somebody ruffs - if ♣ are 4-4, then cater for 4-0 trump break. ♠ 2 If LHO follows, then finesse ♠T. If an opponent ruffs the 2nd club, discard a heart anyway. And hope to guess ♠ and ♦. If LHO ruffs the 3rd or 4th ♣ then over-ruff. And hope to guess ♠ and ♦. if RHO ruffs the 3rd ♣ then hope to guess ♠ and ♦ if RHO ruffs the 4th ♣ then hope to guess ♠ Close, but: if LHO ruffs and you overruff, you have to guess ♠ OR ♦, not both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted April 30, 2013 Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 ♥A♣AK♦K if it holds I play ♠Q from dummy hoping to get to hand eventually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbenvic Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I think I'm winning A, AK♣ to ditch a ♥ and then ♠ to the 10. If it forces the Ace I have the K♠ as an entry to the last 2 clubs, if it loses to the J, then when I win the return I'll play the Q♠ to force the Ace. Only 3-1 spades with the J offside and a defender ducking the ace will stop me from getting 4♠ 1♥ 4♣ and 1♦ If they do duck the Ace I am forced to try for a doubleton J♦ playing 4 rounds of diamonds ruffing the forth with the K♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Only 3-1 spades with the J offside and a defender ducking the ace will stop me from getting 4♠ 1♥ 4♣ and 1♦ It's a pretty line, but there are other losing scenerios: 1. When you lose to the stiff jack. Since they should have a shrewd idea of your shape, they will switch to a low diamond from Axxx. You will now suffer a ruff when you had 11 on top. 2. When you lose to AJx. They will switch to a doubleton diamond, again securing a ruff. Four rounds of clubs looks pretty solid to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 ♥A♣AK♠x towards the Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 Four rounds of clubs looks pretty solid to me.It is. But playing a spade to the queen at trick 2 is not much worse.Assuming no diamond ruff is looming, it wins whenever West has the ♠A (except when West has all the trumps), or the ♠J is singleton or doubleton. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinst22 Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 It is. But playing a spade to the queen at trick 2 is not much worse.Assuming no diamond ruff is looming, it wins whenever West has the ♠A (except when West has all the trumps), or the ♠J is singleton or doubleton. Rainer Herrmann Or J3rd? Trick 2? You're not going to at least pitch a heart first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 my lack of entries to the strong hand convinces me to go for my gamehoping to lose 2 spades and the dia A. Playing 4 clubs off the top willgenerally fail only with severe club distribution coupled and/or severe spade distribution (even then probably only if rho has the long spades). Thats a combination I can live with as all the other choiced risk abandoningwinners and hoping they get lucky enough to get back to them when theodds of being stuck in dummy look overwhelming. Where do I get instinctslike that Dustinst22?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Or J3rd? Trick 2? You're not going to at least pitch a heart first?Exactly. This keeps communication to hand intact.Chances of success for this line is better than 70%.Chances of success for the line playing clubs at trick 2 are more difficult to compute exactly but looks to me slightly higher. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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