How to bid up to 4H?

[lycier]

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I wonder how to bid up to 4H,can you tell me?Many thanks.

[Cyberyeti]

I presume you're playing 2/1 as we'd bid:

 

1♥-2♦

2♠-3♣

3♥-4♥

 

It's also not silly being in 4♠, I have no knowledge of 2/1 so I'll leave the 1♥-1N sequence to others.

[Codo]

I would start by opening 1 ♦ and I may reach the wrong game (3NT) but surely game.

 

If I play a system where this is no opening hand, I would NOT answer 1 NT with this great hand.

 

If I need to pass first and later answer 1 NT with such a great hand, I would reverse with partners hand to take care for this- but no, I would just change my system to something playable...

[PhilG007]

I would bid 2S next,a forcing reverse showing longer hearts than spades and at least

16 + points and 5-4 in the majors. N should bid 4H It's true he only has 2 cards in

his partners suit,but they are 2 very good ones and the trumps may break evenly.

[mcphee]

I am not one who would choose to open the N hand, nor would I be too unhappy had a partner done so. I fail to appreciate bidding 1NT rather than 2D which I assume would be natural. I also feel the S hand might have pushed a bit with 2S, a bit of an overbid, but we are vul.Had this taken place game is easy to reach as N can bid 3D (lebensohl treatment) and landing in 4H should not be pretty easy.

[the hog]

If you decide not to open the Nth hand, (marginal), then the failure to bid 2D is staggering. Now after a 2S reverse, getting to 4H is easy.

[billw55]

North underbid twice already, it is hard to recover from that. Although even now, the reverse 2♠ should do the job.

 

Alternatively,

 

1♦-1♥

2♦-2♠

3♥-4♥

 

or maybe

 

p-1♥

2♦-2♠

3♥-4♥

[PhilKing]

I'm guessing you play two-way Drury as a passed hand (so 2♦ would show 4+ hearts)?

 

If so, you have to play 3♦ as natural, max passed hand. The auction can just go:

 

Pass-1♥

3♦-3♠

4♥

 

I would open the North hand but I don't hate Pass.

 

1♦-1♥

2♦-2♠

3♥-4♥

 

Trivial, really.

[billw55]

I'm guessing you play two-way Drury as a passed hand (so 2♦ would show 4+ hearts)?

eh yeah, I tend to overlook 2♦ drury.

[lowerline]

I agree with not opening the North hand. But as a passed hand, North should respond 2♦ iso 1nt.

 

This looks a reasonable bidding to me:

p-1♥

2♦-2♠

3♦-3♥

4♥-p

 

Steven

[rmnka447]

I also agree that the North hand is not an opener.

 

After a forcing NT, the only sure way to get to 4 ♥ or 4 ♠, is for South to reverse to 2 ♠. Then North holding 11 working points will make sure to drive to game.

 

The question, then, is whether the South hand is good enough for a reverse. Virtually all the values are concentrated in ♥ and ♠ -- two AKs with minor honors supporting -- so reversing doesn't look too hard a decision to make. It works this time, but might lead to overbidding in a partial if North had held a bust response and was planning to simply rebid 2 ♥ over 2 of a minor.

 

The South hand (4 ♠, 5 ♥) is the BIG problem hand after a forcing NT response. If you don't feel the hand is worth a reverse after opening 1 ♥, then you have to decide which is the least onerous way to misdescribe the hand. The choice is either to bid a 2 card minor or simply rebid 2 ♥. How to handle this situation is something for partnership discussion if you don't want to play Flannery.

 

Here a simple 2 ♥ rebid probably gets you to 4 ♥ also. North has to then decide between a raise to 3 ♥ or simply bidding 4 ♥ after the 2 ♥ rebid "promises" 6 ♥ in opener's hand. I suspect more than a few players would choose to treat the doubleton ♥ honors like they were 3 hearts and simply bid 4 ♥.

 

Flannery players should get to 4 ♥ if they decide to open 2 ♦ with the South hand. North would bid 2 NT asking for a further desciption of the South hand. South would rebid 3 ♠ showing a maximum and 2-2 in the minors and North would bid game.

[billw55]

1NT might not be forcing by a passed hand.

[mycroft]

I don't play 2-way Drury. Why? This hand.

 

Having said that, if 1NT is NF and 2♦ is hearts, you're hooped in general; this hand is okay as, as many are saying above, you have a (dead minimum) reverse.