What to do better? help please

[deep]

5°Major diamond 4°

 

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1nt is also with 5° major

 

What bid south? 3♣ can not bid repeat stayman because after 2♠ bid double if he want to know the hand, with pass after 2♠ opener say that not have 4♥, not have 5 cards, no double stop at ♠ because not bid 2nt, then now is better bid 3♦ or 3♠ or 3nt?

Ty at all for help :)

[gszes]

as long as you recognize the 3c bid is forcing you are off to a good start. You have

already told p you do not have 2 spade stops and a simple 3n would show p one

stop. This leaves 3s available for a partial spade stop K Qx Jxx Txxx. P should then

be in much better position to decide if 3n is a good contract. Many will consider Qxx

a spade stop but they fail to take into consideration their p is avoiding bidding nt and did

not bid 3s themselves to ask for a stopper. While the Q might be a stopper I would hate

to miss 5c because I lied:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) QTx I would try 3n.

[PhilKing]

3♦. 3♣ is natural and forcing and I cooperate with a descriptive economical bid. With a choice of plausible bids (3♦,3♠ and 3NT), choose the most economical, since it gives partner more room to probe. In this case 3♦ stands out.

 

If partner has:

 

♠xx

♥AKQx

♦x

♣J9xxxx

 

He can still bid 3♠. Somehow I doubt partner has anything resembling that. :ph34r:

[rmnka447]

3♦. 3♣ is natural and forcing and I cooperate with a descriptive economical bid. With a choice of plausible bids (3♦,3♠ and 3NT), choose the most economical, since it gives partner more room to probe. In this case 3♦ stands out.

 

If partner has:

 

♠xx

♥AKQx

♦x

♣J9xxxx

 

He can still bid 3♠. Somehow I doubt partner has anything resembling that. :ph34r:

I pretty much agree with PhilKing's comments.

 

Responder may be somewhat stuck in finding a forcing bid, so 3 ♣, which should be forcing, may be made on not a lot of ♣ length (♣ Jxxx).

 

It's also quite possible for responder to hold both minors as well as ♥s -- something like ♠ x ♥ KQxx ♦ Axxx ♣ Jxxx.

[PhilG007]

5°Major diamond 4°

 

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1nt is also with 5° major

 

What bid south? 3♣ can not bid repeat stayman because after 2♠ bid double if he want to know the hand, with pass after 2♠ opener say that not have 4♥, not have 5 cards, no double stop at ♠ because not bid 2nt, then now is better bid 3♦ or 3♠ or 3nt?

Ty at all for help :)

 

 

North's 3 Clubs is a weak take out showing at least 6+ clubs and 7 losers.

South has 6 losers. 7+6 =13 24-13= 11 tricks South should jump to 5 Clubs.

[the_clown]

AS other said, 3♦ planning to bid 3N over 3♥.

[billw55]

North's 3 Clubs is a weak take out showing at least 6+ clubs and 7 losers.

North has made two bids though. Is your analysis of his hand consistent with both?

[Zelandakh]

The traditional meaning of Stayman followed by 3♣ is a weak takeout with long clubs. However, not many still playing this version of Stayman. In the 80s there was a phase where it became fashionable, at least in some areas, to play Stayman followed by 3♣ as natural and invitational. But by far the most common meaning nowadays is for the sequence to be natural and forcing. PhilK gave a good write-up of what to do over a forcing 3♣ and why.

[P_Marlowe]

Absent unusual agreements, partner showed 5+ clubs, and 4 in a undisclosed major, gameforcing values.

You have a 9 card fit, maximum, controls => show slam interest, by bidding 3D.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe