kfay Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 Saw this decent problem today on Vugraph: [hv=pc=n&n=s64ha54dkqt2cq642&e=sak9hj2da753ck975&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=1n2h(5+%21H%2C%204+minor)2s4hppp]266|200[/hv] T1: ♠jack, 4, KING, seven Your lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 ♥J, expecting to lead the ♥2 next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 It is reasonable to ask why partner didn'[t lead his singleton in declarer's minor. The reason would seem to be he has a void so responder has five hearts (or six) and a five card minor, and at least two spades (since he seems surely to hold the ♠Q). So one must decide which hand South would try 2♥ on... ♠ Q x (x)♥ K Q x x x (x)♦ void or (x) or (J)♣ A J T 8 x OR ♠ Q x (x)♥K Q x x x (x)♦J 9 8 6 4♣ void or (x) or (A) or (J) When you make your best guess at which suit partner is void in, return that suit. Partner will ruff and return a spade since he knows you don't have the ♠Q. Which would you guess? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnszsun Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 It is reasonable to ask why partner didn'[t lead his singleton in declarer's minor. The reason would seem to be he has a void so responder has five hearts (or six) and a five card minor, and at least two spades (since he seems surely to hold the ♠Q). So one must decide which hand South would try 2♥ on... ♠ Q x (x)♥ K Q x x x (x)♦ void or (x) or (J)♣ A J T 8 x OR ♠ Q x (x)♥K Q x x x (x)♦J 9 8 6 4♣ void or (x) or (A) or (J) When you make your best guess at which suit partner is void in, return that suit. Partner will ruff and return a spade since he knows you don't have the ♠Q. Which would you guess? I would play for the first type. Becuase even if we guess wrong and declarer happens to hold diamond suit, he still can't make with 3-5-5-0(he would be forced). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 28, 2013 Report Share Posted April 28, 2013 I would cash the second spade. 1. I will get a signal from partner.2. If I lead a minor and I am wrong, I am not sure wheter declarer cannot discard his second spade from dummy if he holds 6 hearts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alik1974 Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Partner should have a 6-card ♠ to bid, otherwise he might pass with only 5 ♠ and 2 or 3 low ♥.He should have a void in declarer's minor or he would have led a singleton in that minor.His most probable distribution is therefore 6-3-4-0 or 6-3-0-4.As Codo said, cashing a second ♠ will allow partner to signal his void. Two ♠, ♦A and a ruff should be OK for one down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 29, 2013 Report Share Posted April 29, 2013 Partner should have a 6-card ♠ to bid, otherwise he might pass with only 5 ♠ and 2 or 3 low ♥.He should have a void in declarer's minor or he would have led a singleton in that minor.His most probable distribution is therefore 6-3-4-0 or 6-3-0-4.As Codo said, cashing a second ♠ will allow partner to signal his void. Two ♠, ♦A and a ruff should be OK for one down.♣9 A singleton lead would certainly have looked more attractive to West after this bidding, so West has a void in a minor. In the critical case where South is void in diamonds and West void in clubs you have no diamond ace coming and cashing a second spade lets the contract make.In this case you need to switch to clubs immediately. Declarer can not be void in clubs because partner would not have bid 2♠ with a diamond void and a good club suit, neither would he pass 4♥. Declarer is marked with the ace of clubs. A club switch looses only if partner has specifically ♠JT8532 ♥xxx ♦- ♣JT83 I bet against this and I am not sure he would bid that way with a six card spade suit and void at all white.Why partner can not have a five card spade suit escapes me. But in this case he must be void in clubs and declarer void in diamonds. Lead ♣9 at trick 2Partner should have made your defense easier by leading an alarm clock signal. The ♠J is not a good card, no matter what this spade holding is.A high spade spot card lead might hint at a diamond switch, while the lowest spade might indicate a club preference. Rainer Herrmann 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted April 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2013 Partner did have a club void and a club switch at trick two was necessary to defeat the contract: Link to hand:http://bit.ly/186xM7O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 I really hate it that BBF creates the diagrams for two hands like this. It must have happened the thousands time that I did not realize that dummy is on my left at the diagramm but at the right in the play. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 ♣9 Partner should have made your defense easier by leading an alarm clock signal. The ♠J is not a good card, no matter what this spade holding is.A high spade spot card lead might hint at a diamond switch, while the lowest spade might indicate a club preference. Rainer Herrmannsorry for the partial quote lots of good material. The alarm clock signal works well when playing 4thbest when the bidding promises 5 or more in a suit. The lowest card can be a great lead director.Unfortunately if playing 3/5 the lowest card is far too often nothing more than 5th best from 5. I totallyagree with the high spade spot (not the J) to ask for a dia return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted May 1, 2013 Report Share Posted May 1, 2013 off topic IMO next time just make the safer 4s bid and you willprobably have far fewer ulcers in the long run. P bid 2s they need have a competitive hand and their spade length makes your spadeAK far less likely to be winners and your club K certainly looks l muchmore likely to be pickupable. The worst case scenario for 4s should bearound down 2. It is a decent form of insurance with little downsideand lots of upside if the opps stretch too far going to 5h. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted May 2, 2013 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 off topic IMO next time just make the safer 4s bid and you willprobably have far fewer ulcers in the long run. P bid 2s they need have a competitive hand and their spade length makes your spadeAK far less likely to be winners and your club K certainly looks l muchmore likely to be pickupable. The worst case scenario for 4s should bearound down 2. It is a decent form of insurance with little downsideand lots of upside if the opps stretch too far going to 5h. What about when it's -3 into a 4♥ contract that can be set (as here)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted May 2, 2013 Report Share Posted May 2, 2013 Yeah but defending is way harder than being dummy so we should always save on every hand 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted May 3, 2013 Report Share Posted May 3, 2013 Yeah but defending is way harder than being dummy so we should always save on every hand :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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