Poky Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 IMP. They Vul. ♠AKJ10x♥Q8x♦A♣Q97x 1♠ - pass - 1NT - 2♦??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 x for takeout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Double here is take out, no problem to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke warm Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 i think i'd double, it seems to give us the most choices (including pass by partner, which he'd be less likely to do with vul reversed).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 clear Dbl imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double ! Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 My vote is for a Dbl ("partner please bid something or convert"). Makes for more co-operative bidding, P has already shown possession of at least a few cards, P has inference that I have tolerance for hearts, P can convert etc, etc. Given this interpretation, then what does one do with a sound penalty double? Partner still has an opportunity to speak again. Otherwise, a plus score can't be all that bad. But this just emphasizes the importance of discussion and partnership work: what is standard for one mioght not be standard for the next person. This hand reminds me of another sequence where partnership agreement (or use of Ben's rule) would be necessary. 1D-p-p-1S 2D-Dbl ! (?)What is the double? Is it penalty because it's under the suit bidder? (And partner only balanced with a suit bid?) Or could it be responsive for the 2 unbid suits? FWIW, my interpretation is responsive (takeout). What's yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pclayton Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 This hand reminds me of another sequence where partnership agreement (or use of Ben's rule) would be necessary. 1D-p-p-1S 2D-Dbl ! (?)What is the double? Is it penalty because it's under the suit bidder? (And partner only balanced with a suit bid?) Or could it be responsive for the 2 unbid suits? FWIW, my interpretation is responsive (takeout). What's yours? We've had similar discussions in our partnership about a responsive double behind the opener. It simply has to be penalty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 In "standard" double here is a penalty double (and thus would be a poor choice on the actual hand). If double is penalty this is a really tough judgment call - all of the choices in the poll (besides double and "other") have some merit, but I prefer either 2NT or pass over 2S or 3C. Nowadays most experts (at least in America but most likely everywhere) play this double as for takeout and this hand is a good illustration of why. You are more likely to be dealt a hand like this one than a hand that is suitable for a penalty double. Also, if play double as takeout and you have a true penalty double hand, you have reasonable alternatives (pass or 2NT depending on the strength of the hand) whereas if you play penalty doubles and have a hand like the one in question, there are no attractive altnernatives. Fred GitelmanBridge Base Inc.www.bridgebase.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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