akhare Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Edit: Fixed bidding. IMP, NV. vs. V. LHO deals and opens a weak NT (11-14). You hold: XXX KQJTXX XXX K The auction proceeds: 1N - P (2♥) (transfer) - X (3♠) (super accept) 4♥ - 4♠ ?? In case it isn't clear, you made the X of 2♥. Yes, the double should probably show strength vs. weak NT, but your agreement is lead directional. What's your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Your partner doubled the 2♥ transfer and you hold KQJTxx of hearts. And you are nonvul vs. vul (they open 11-14 vul?). Of course you bid 5♥. In fact, it would have been better to do it the previous round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Partner did not double, it was me. I pay my insurance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Partner did not double, it was me. I pay my insurance.. RHO opened and you passed. So it must be your partner who doubled and partner seems to have passed 4♠I do not understand why some still do not use the hand editor to avoid such confusion. 5♥ looks obvious Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Or at least use line breaks. 1NT-p-2H-x3S-4H-4S-? the two pieces of information are contradictory (the position of the question mark and the fact that it was RHO who opened 1NT). I don't think we'd have passed over 1NT, though, so I'm more inclined to trust the question mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 My call is for the TD to ask about the apparent COOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 BTW if it was LHO after all who bid 1NT and it was 1NT-p-2♥-?, I don't like double here at all. 3♥ is better. (incidentally, many people play double here as just a strong NT and not a lead direct). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 RHO opened and you passed. So it must be your partner who doubled and partner seems to have passed 4♠I do not understand why some still do not use the hand editor to avoid such confusion. 5♥ looks obvious Rainer Herrmann Maybe you should reread the auction. And than you may compare the likelihood that the bidding was complete false and partner doubled 2 ♥ with the porhibility that the OP wrote RHO instead of LHO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 BTW if it was LHO after all who bid 1NT and it was 1NT-p-2♥-?, I don't like double here at all. 3♥ is better. (incidentally, many people play double here as just a strong NT and not a lead direct).Most people would think that 3H shows a better hand than this. OP, did partner's x actually just show hearts, or did it show general values? I would bid 5H in either case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 Obviously I'm the hand that doubled the transfer. If partner wanted to consult me, he could have made a fit-bid of 4♣ or 4♦ over 3♠. Hence he's not really expecting me to bid, in spite of his apparent spade shortage. On the other hand, I have very little defence, no spade wastage, and an extra heart, so I'd bid 5♥. That's not purely bid as a save - we might make opposite something like x xxxx Axxx AQxx. Random thought: what methods do we play directly over 1NT? If partner had a way to show four hearts and a five-card minor, we might infer that he was too weak to overcall. That would give us more reason to bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Maybe you should reread the auction. And than you may compare the likelihood that the bidding was complete false and partner doubled 2 ♥ with the porhibility that the OP wrote RHO instead of LHO....Thanks for your typical German lecture. Use them for somebody else.I find them preposterous Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thanks for your typical German lecture. Use them for somebody else.I find them preposterous Rainer Herrmann So you are allowed to tell me that I was wrong but you cannot take a response, despite the fact that you simply erred? I do not know the english expression for this, but you may know the german one too... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 The question boils down to what the definition of lead directing meansi this partnership. In mine it might be as simple as Axx KQJT xxx xxx if thatis the standard in this partnership the 4h bid pretty much has to be to make(little sense in competing over 3s otherwise). Our hand has two extra offensive tricks and the club K has a very good chance of being as goodas an ace. 5h surely cannot be hammered too badly and might make. Itis just too small a target to play p for a hand that sets 4s 1 trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 So you are allowed to tell me that I was wrong but you cannot take a response, despite the fact that you simply erred? I do not know the english expression for this, but you may know the german one too...Oh I can take a response provided it is not too impudent. And I did not tell you you were wrong. I just tried to clarify what opener had originally written, nothing else. It turned out he made an error (not me, though I often make errors) and you may have anticipated his error while I took what was actually written at face value. No reason to get aggressive. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted April 27, 2013 Report Share Posted April 27, 2013 5 ♥ Partner can't have many ♠s and I've got short ♣s. Who knows what makes? I'm bidding one more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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