blackshoe Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 There's a bazillion different ways to play minor suit raises. Here's one I like: By an unpassed hand: 2m: 5+ trumps, denies a 4 card major, FG1♣-2♦ or 1♦-2♥: limit raise in opener's minor, 5+ trumps, denies a 4 card major, forcing to 3 of the minor (F3m)3m: 0-5 HCP (about), 5+ trumps, no 4 card major, preemptive. By a passed hand or after interference: 2m: 6-9 HCP (about), 5+ trumps, no 4 card major, NF. The other two raises remain in place by a passed hand, but the JS limit raise is not used after interference (cue bid or redouble and then raise). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 By an unpassed hand: 2m: 5+ trumps, denies a 4 card major, FG1♣-2♦ or 1♦-2♥: limit raise in opener's minor, 5+ trumps, denies a 4 card major, forcing to 3 of the minor (F3m)3m: 0-5 HCP (about), 5+ trumps, no 4 card major, preemptive. Out of interest, what would a 2NT response mean? I've played:2m: limit raise, F3m, denies 4cM2N: GF raise3m: preemptive The advantage here is that you have more discernment in your limit raise auctions, and you can show stoppers up the line after 1m-2N (especially useful at MPs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 ONLY by an unpassed hand. I am starting to wonder what was incomprehensible about my previous post. What I was trying and apparently failing to say was that if you play your single raise GF and something else as invitational, you would do better as a passed hand to use the single raise as invitational and use the other bids (criss-cross or whatever) as something more useful. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 Out of interest, what would a 2NT response mean? I've played:2m: limit raise, F3m, denies 4cM2N: GF raise3m: preemptive The advantage here is that you have more discernment in your limit raise auctions, and you can show stoppers up the line after 1m-2N (especially useful at MPs) I use:2m: limit raise or better2N: very weak raise3m: preemptive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 Out of interest, what would a 2NT response mean? I've played:2m: limit raise, F3m, denies 4cM2N: GF raise3m: preemptive The advantage here is that you have more discernment in your limit raise auctions, and you can show stoppers up the line after 1m-2N (especially useful at MPs)1m-2NT is balanced, no 4 card M, 11-12 HCP.1m-1NT is balanced, no 4 card M, 6-10 HCP.1m-3NT is balanced, no 4 card M, 13-15 HCP. I've not played your method, but it looks interesting. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 I use:2m: limit raise or better2N: very weak raise3m: preemptiveI guess that is why I don't use "preemptive" when describing anything. You have a distinction between a very weak raise and preemptive. Do your opponents understand the difference? Am sure one of those is used as a "mixed" raise in reality. I don't use that term either, when disclosing a raise which is somewhere in between invitational and crap. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 i don't really know inv minors but based on this thread you guys don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 i don't really know inv minors but based on this thread you guys don't knowIf you are referring to the use of the term, I agree that we guys disagree. The only things important are that the two guys across from each other are on the same page, and that they are able to disclose how they play the raises. This thread is just a sharing of ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted April 26, 2013 Report Share Posted April 26, 2013 i don't really know inv minors but based on this thread you guys don't knowThere are several equally valid ways to play inverted minors, often which is best depends on the rest of your system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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