Zelandakh Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 As soon as our opponents figure out a good defence to this and our bad results start outweighing the good results, only then will we change to something else.This is precisely the point here. If you play openings such as this against weak opponents they will be unprepared and have no idea what to do, even more so if they are playing with a pick up partner. This is one of the reasons why the 2NT = minors openings tends to be highly effective in practise at club level, even when it is probably not very good. In truth, you are making the perfect advert for the ACBL systems policy here. As cherdano already pointed out, your opponents are likely to get bad results when they make stupid bids. The chances of them making a stupid bid are increased when they are faced by something unusual without warning. That is an argument for your pre-alerting the methods and giving them enough time to come up with a reasonable defence (or offering one). It is not an argument that the convention will be successful against good players who are prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 I don't really understand the 4S bid to be honest, are you bidding to make or to preempt them? Don't you have an invitational bid available? In unrelated news, East as well as West bid like unspeakable idiots in that 4D+3 debacle, I'm surprised nobody noticed the lack of raise from East. Your convention has nothing to do with it, I think without your opening it would have gone p-p-p-1D-all pass, for the same +190. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Is 2NT for 5/5 in the minors GCC legal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Is 2NT for 5/5 in the minors GCC legal?Yes, even 5/4. http://www.acbl.org/assets/documents/play/Convention-Chart.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 In unrelated news, East as well as West bid like unspeakable idiots in that 4D+3 debacle, I'm surprised nobody noticed the lack of raise from East. There are 2 things about that hand: 1. West has an obvious 4N bid over which East is probably worth 6D.2. East has an obvious raise over 4D. Also, 2N as both majors has all the weaknesses of 2H for the majors as well as not being able to play 2M, a not unlikely contract in standard, with the only advantage being you maintain a weak 2H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 2nt as 5-10 with 5-5 majors is another one of those Irish things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 2nt as 5-10 with 5-5 majors is another one of those Irish things. Minor problem, I'm Irish and I've never seen anyone with that agreement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Sorry Wayne, I have Belgian reading comprehension :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 In unrelated news, East as well as West bid like unspeakable idiots in that 4D+3 debacle, I'm surprised nobody noticed the lack of raise from East. Your convention has nothing to do with it, I think without your opening it would have gone p-p-p-1D-all pass, for the same +190.My money is on the auction being wrong, as both East and West's actions look more plausible if it went 2NT - p - 3♠ - 4♣ - all pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Sorry Wayne, I have Belgian reading comprehension :) I don't know what that is and I'm Belgian. Oh wait... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 You need to use the little grey cells... or give up and stuff yourself with chocolate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted June 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 <snip>The chances of them making a stupid bid are increased when they are faced by something unusual without warning. That is an argument for your pre-alerting the methods and giving them enough time to come up with a reasonable defence (or offering one). It is not an argument that the convention will be successful against good players who are prepared.Become the pioneer and offer a defence to the opening in the OP. The ACBL apparently allows 2NT for both minors. So why not 2NT for the majors as well? All that needs to be done is give them the suggested defence as well? (OK-So maybe a protracted fight with them before it will be accepted also awaits :ph34r:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wodahs Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 We open 1NT with 11-14. I like our defence against their Capp 2C (likewise the DONT X). We get Capped a LOT. When we're balanced or GF, we can wait for developments. When we're shapely (at least 5-4, or one good suit) and want to compete for a partial, we play a kind of Capp over Capp. Over the Capp 2C: X = MM2♦ = any long suit, then 2♥ P/C2♥ = 4 hearts and 5m (obvio 2NT for m, can try 2S and 3C with 5-baggers)2♠ = 4 spades and 5m2NT = 4 diamonds and 5 clubs3♣ = 5 clubs and 4 diamonds Same same over the DONT X, except 2C = MM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 Minor problem, I'm Irish and I've never seen anyone with that agreement.Was a throwback from an earlier thread, where we used Irish as a disparaging term for some silly ideas. No offense, we just got tired of bashing each other's homelands or the traditional scapegoat countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted June 10, 2013 Report Share Posted June 10, 2013 One agreement that I am fond of is using trump suit preference on opening lead. You have to have some agreements as to what suits are in play from the auction, but I still find it very helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted August 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 This hand required us to make some adjustments to our agreements:[hv=pc=n&w=sat864hajt54d8cq4&e=s9hk7dqt976542ck8&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2n(5/5%20majors%2C%208-12%20hcp)3c3dp3hp4d]266|200[/hv] 1. 3♦ would normally show no preference for either major, requesting opener to bid the stronger/longer one.2. Opener chooses ♥3. Repeating the ♦ suit now by East shows a single suiter, no fit in the majors 4♦ was the last makeable contract. The opponents had a partial in ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Still not sure what the point of posting hands that come up are (not to mention it's actually rather tough to come up with hands where 4D makes, but you can't take 5 tricks in clubs- North with (21)37 with AKx of diamonds and the ace of clubs is all I can come up with). The best part of this hand isn't your so-called "success", you're actually a level higher than standard bidders who would bid 1S-2C-P-P-2H-3C?-3D AP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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