blackshoe Posted April 19, 2013 Report Share Posted April 19, 2013 Perhaps you didn't understand the context of my comment? I was discussing what people should do if they have an agreement which they forget so often that it becomes an implicit agreement, and the implicit agreement is not allowed. For example, if you agree to play a Multi 2♦ and then keep opening 2♦ with a natural weak two, it becomes an agreement which would be illegal in England or North America. What do you think a pair should do in those circumstances?Change your explicit agreement? I'm not convinced that the agreement necessarily becomes "multi or a weak two in diamonds". If you always forget, then the agreement is "weak two in diamonds". Of course, if only one of the pair forgets, then the two players are playing different agreements, which is probably illegal most places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 For example, if you agree to play a Multi 2♦ and then keep opening 2♦ with a natural weak two, it becomes an agreement which would be illegal in England or North America. What do you think a pair should do in those circumstances?Not worry too much? They'll get better. At the moment they are giving more away when they open 2♦ than if they remembered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm not convinced that the agreement necessarily becomes "multi or a weak two in diamonds". If it does, the opponents have a right to know, but the players are not likely to announce an illegal agreement, and in fact they will not usually disclose that they have a de facto illegal agreement due to the propensity of one or more of the players to forget. I have some sympathy for Bobby Wolff's position... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted April 23, 2013 Report Share Posted April 23, 2013 Not worry too much? They'll get better. At the moment they are giving more away when they open 2♦ than if they remembered.So if I want to play a Multi 2♥ opening, all I have to do is agree with my partner that it is a weak 2 in spades and forget often? As long as we tell the opponents our tendency to "forget" then there is no foul, right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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