gnasher Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 In English Acol, 3♣ used not to be game-forcing. I think that changed sometime in the 1980s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antrax Posted April 20, 2013 Report Share Posted April 20, 2013 they are supposedly playing the idiotic constructive raise treatment. This shows how silly they are-snip-In my system, the auction would go:2♣ (20+) - 2♥! (2 controls, GF)Welcome back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finch Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 In English Acol, 3♣ used not to be game-forcing. I think that changed sometime in the 1980s. In 1983, Reese & Bird were saying it is non-forcing, never mind not game forcing. But (for the benefit of other readers) it is now universally played as game forcing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 In 1983, Reese & Bird were saying it is non-forcing, never mind not game forcing.In 1974 Crowhurst said that "In traditional Acol, a bid of this sort was forcing to game. The modern practice, however, is to make it forcing for one round only." Maybe they all kept changing their minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted April 21, 2013 Report Share Posted April 21, 2013 In 1974 Crowhurst said that "In traditional Acol, a bid of this sort was forcing to game. The modern practice, however, is to make it forcing for one round only." Maybe they all kept changing their minds. I think it was partly because people still played some variant Acol Twos, which limited the chances of having a legitimate monster for 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted April 22, 2013 Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 In English Acol, 3♣ used not to be game-forcing. I think that changed sometime in the 1980s.I played it as 16+ around 1990 under protest, since the alternative my partner of the time would accept was considerably worse. I thought that the blue book from the early 70s had this as a game force although it is so long since I saw it that I am not 100% sure. In my system, the auction would go:Would West still sign off in 4♠ if East had something like♠Kxxx♥Qxx♦Kxx♣Qxx? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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