bd71 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 [hv=pc=n&e=s74hqt852dk83cqj4&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1h3c]133|200[/hv] 2/1. Matchpoints. Your call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 edit: whoops - misread the auction, lol, must rethink OK, make that 4♥, ignore my pass in the poll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I have an effective yarborough with 5 card trump support. I do not want to encourage partner to move forward by making any forward going bid. So I pass, as ugly as that seems. Any heart raise is constructive over a preempt, and I dont want to make a constructive call on this hand. I fully expect partner to reopen the bidding, as partner may assume that I have a penalty pass of 3♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I fully expect partner to reopen the bidding, as partner may assume that I have a penalty pass of 3♣.He might assume that, or other possible hands for me, but I doubt the one I actually hold will be among them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I'm a 3H bidder just on bean-counting, but I'm conscious of the fact that my hand is effectively xx / xxxxx / Kxx / xxx. I'm not confident that I'm right, but everything else just seems wrong :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is with these answers? Pass? 4♥? 3♥ looks completely normal to me. Has this place completely gone insane? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I was going to type almost exactly what Phil did. How are the first two votes 4♥ and pass on the most normal 3♥ bid ever?! Also it's not right to say we have effectively a yarbrough or something lol. The heart queen can fix a 3-0 break if partner has AK, and save a trick if he has just one of them. The diamond king is obviously good. Even the clubs are better than not having them. Partner can have an honor or it may give the opponents no safe exit if partner has a singleton, etc etc. I mean we are just a clear normal raise. Not good enough for game but not raising is ridiculous, so what are we left with? There is no reason to overthink this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartA Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I voted pass by mistake. I thought the hand shown is the facing partner's 3♣ bid. I would vote 3♥ instead. So, please discount one "Pass" and add one 3♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 there is no benefit to trying to scratch out a game at MP with a hand that essentiallylooks like xx xxxxx Kxx xxx bidding 3h here at IMPS, while a stretch, at least has themerit of maybe reaching a sketchy game. At MP 3h may all too easily be too highand our best shot at a positive may be the opps playing clubs. If p can act over 3c maybe we should consider 4h but until then it seems bestto wait and see. Strict bean counters will see an invite and act accordingly and theycan be right especially if playing against opps that make lots of unsound preempts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 Was the ♦K added after my post? I certainly did not see it when I made my call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted April 3, 2013 Report Share Posted April 3, 2013 I voted for 4H thinking that the overcall was 3S, not 3C. Put me down for 3H instead. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I'm conscious of the fact that my hand is effectively xx / xxxxx / Kxx / xxx. The heart queen may not be a useful card, but if you don't have it then partner is likely to have it, and partner would count it for full. Differently put, your expectation opposite a random 12-count is considerably higher when you hold the heart queen compared to when you do not hold the heart queen, even if the heart queen itself is completely useless. The QJ of clubs are less likely to be useful. Although, with a little imagination we could give partner Ax AJxxxxx Axx x, where the club QJ likely give you an overtrick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 The heart queen may not be a useful card, but if you don't have it then partner is likely to have it, and partner would count it for full. Differently put, your expectation opposite a random 12-count is considerably higher when you hold the heart queen compared to when you do not hold the heart queen, even if the heart queen itself is completely useless. The QJ of clubs are less likely to be useful. Although, with a little imagination we could give partner Ax AJxxxxx Axx x, where the club QJ likely give you an overtrick. Thanks for the perspective; that's useful. The point about the HQ is well-taken. And also sometimes partner shows up with Hx(x) of clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 What is with these answers? Pass? 4♥? 3♥ looks completely normal to me. Has this place completely gone insane? We love you Phil :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted April 6, 2013 Report Share Posted April 6, 2013 There are many negative adjustments to the LAW here and we have lotsa losers. 3♥ is fine...4♥ is a big overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 What is with these answers? Pass? 4♥? 3♥ looks completely normal to me. Has this place completely gone insane? I think "insane" is an overbid. However the standard of answers, (and I guess posters), has certainly deteriorated drastically over the last couple of years. This is an obvious 3H bid. It is amusing that some change their answers after reading some of the replies here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted April 7, 2013 Report Share Posted April 7, 2013 It is amusing that some change their answers after reading some of the replies here. ...or refreshing. The place would really suck if no one learned anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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