bd71 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=skq842hdk976532c4&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2c(strong%202C)p2d(waiting)]133|200[/hv] Both sides playing 2/1. You have no two-suited bid available (does anybody in this situation?). Your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I have two suited bids avaiable but never the opportunity to use them.I try 4 ♦ now and 4 or 5 ♠ over 4 or 5 ♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 You could double to show diamonds and bid spades next in case you find pard with long spades and short diamonds. Pretty cheeky to treat it as our hand after a 2♣ opener but could be fun to yank their chain. Codo's approach is probably best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszes Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 after a 2c opener noone needs to wast serious time searching for slam if it is ourhand we merely bid game where it belongs and dont mess around. Our hand willprobably make for a good sac in diamonds or less likely in spades IF p has a reasonable fit for diamonds. Every bid that is not game after opps open 2c should begeared toward asking p if a sac is reasonable. With this in mind we have a 2n bidwhich can be used with any 2 suited hand (cant be natural) but there is too muchdisparity btn our suits to use 2n. I think 3d is a much better solution overall whichadds some preemptive value and still leaves room for p to sac if their hand is appropriate. Yes indeed we will "miss" some dandy spade games of course the opps will probably beable to bid enough so we never get to play 4s anyway. If p can get a 4d/5d bid in we can thenbid spades to suggest an alternative sac but only after we have checked with our primary suit. The key is to realize that if p does not fit dia the odds of our having a reasonable sacrifice handplummet precipitously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bgm Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 If you play Truscott defense then it is possible to use X = ♦ + ♠ (non-touching suits, one of them is the last ART suit bid by opp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 I might bid 4♦ and then pass, or I might start with 3♦ and then decide whether to bid 4♠ depending on the auction. I don't like 4♦ followed by 4♠, because I won't know whether they've found a fit or been propelled by my preempt into the wrong contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 4♦, no later action. But I do also have two suited bids, and I would use one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 The problem with a systemic double, aside from the suit disparity, is that it doesn't interfere yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 Since in my partnerships we play CRASH over strong 1 ♣ bids, we also play it over strong 2 ♣ openers, too. Systemically then, my bid is 2 NT which shows the pointed suits (♦, ♠) or rounded suits (♣, ♥). If there is no agreement about 2 suited bids, I'd simply bid 3 ♦ if partner will take it as ♦. Otherwise, I'd bid 4 ♦ with the hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siegmund Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I suppose I am the only one who is considering 2S now, and perhaps 5D later if they bid 4H and partner fails to raise the spades. Not sure I should be considering it. But I would rather partner lead a spade than a diamond, if we find ourselves defending a high-level contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 I'd start with 3♦ and later bid ♠ at 4-level or lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=skq842hdk976532c4&d=w&v=e&b=16&a=2c(strong%202C)p2d(waiting)]133|200[/hv] Both sides playing 2/1. You have no two-suited bid available (does anybody in this situation?). Your bid? I quite like 4N - two places to play. Partner's not going to take this as ace-asking, or as to play, so we're safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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