lycier Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp]266|200[/hv] 我放言:这牌就要高精尖武器装备,否则很容易蒙上去,这不是一名优秀叫牌狙击手所为。不服吧,您来试试。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 我拿东家的牌会争叫1NT,然后用RM的1NT后续(有改动)……[hv=d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s1n(15-18)p2d(transfer)p2hp2n(transfer%20to%203%21C)p3cp3d(5%21H-4%21C%20Slam%20interest)p3h(relay)p3n(3-5-1-4%20light%20slam%20interest)p4d(RKC%20%21C)p4h(1/4)p4s(relay)p5d(CQ+HK%2Cnot%20SK)p5h(relay)p5nt(HQ%2Cnot%20SQ)p7cppp]133|100[/hv] 争叫2C的话估计很难叫…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 看到二家牌可能会2C-2H-3N-4C,后面应是能叫到个6C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
601821297 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp]266|200[/hv][hv=d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp2hp3dp4cp4dp4hp4sp5hp6cppp]233|200[/hv]注:4D为反冲问叫(如果能把4D定义为C/D的双套关键张问叫就更好)4S问将牌Q,5H有CQ和HK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zs_xjm Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 这牌应该还是从扣叫2S表示C配合,至少邀请实力开始吧:[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2cp2sp3dp3hp3sp4dp4hp4np5cp7cppp]133|100[/hv] 期待老师的高精尖武器. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 这牌应该还是从扣叫2S表示C配合,至少邀请实力开始吧:[hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2cp2sp3dp3hp3sp4dp4hp4np5cp7cppp]133|100[/hv] 期待老师的高精尖武器.你那三张♠小竟然叫出2♠,典型的假冒三无产品,还名曰:扣叫,简直是有意欺瞒检查团http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif,赶紧写检查http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zs_xjm Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 (1S) - 2C -(P) - 2H <--这个2H可是不逼叫的, 可能只是想改善定约 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hejiang Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2cp2hp2np3cp3dp3sp3np4cp4dp4sp5cp6cppp]133|100[/hv]2♥:有五张高花总是要表示出来,且逼叫2NT:无3张支持,S花色有止3♣:显示配合,寻求3NT或有轻微满冠兴趣3♦:套,扣叫,有止3♠:配合极好,有满冠兴趣,等待3NT:均型牌,点力尚可4♣:关键张问叫4♦:4关键张4♠:问花色情况5♣:双张或有第三控制(三张的话可以飞到SK,双张可用♥KQ垫去)6♣(S、H、D花色已无失张,因已无可能探将牌质量,止于6C) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterwang Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2cp2hp2np3cp3dp3sp3np4cp4dp4sp5cp6cppp]133|100[/hv]2♥:有五张高花总是要表示出来,且逼叫2NT:无3张支持,S花色有止3♣:显示配合,寻求3NT或有轻微满冠兴趣3♦:套,扣叫,有止3♠:配合极好,有满冠兴趣,等待3NT:均型牌,点力尚可4♣:关键张问叫4♦:4关键张4♠:问花色情况5♣:双张或有第三控制(三张的话可以飞到SK,双张可用♥KQ垫去)6♣(S、H、D花色已无失张,因已无可能探将牌质量,止于6C) 按劳伦斯 防御叫牌百科 2h是不逼叫的 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zs_xjm Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 按劳伦斯 防御叫牌百科 2h是不逼叫的标准叫牌都不逼叫,逼叫反倒要提醒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
world7th Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 按劳伦斯 防御叫牌百科 2h是不逼叫的标准叫牌都不逼叫,逼叫反倒要提醒这个观点已经不符合当今桥牌理念了!现在的桥牌,打强自由是主流,而强自由在这个进程里,新花最少是逼叫一轮,所以2h肯定逼叫。具体到这副牌里,其实用不着什么高精尖武器,就是一个牌值判断问题,叫到7理论上是不合理的,成功率低于大满贯所需的75%,但有激进的愿意拼搏,也属正常。[hv=d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp2hp3dp3sp3np4cp4dp4hp4sp4np5dp6cppp]133|100[/hv]2h=逼叫一轮3d=d套,54套非低限,低限应该是2nt或3c(低限再叫3c不表示6张)。3s=逼叫到局,可以先理解为询问S止张。(这里有个分歧,有人把4c定为逼叫,把先3s等同伴3nt后再叫4c定义为c配合的s提前扣叫,各有利弊)3nt=有s止张,同时也证明自己是高限(因为前面有止张没叫2nt),也证明没6张c(如果东家2146或1246牌型且高限,他应该2s逼叫,一是表示要到局,二是看西有没有3张c或4张D)4c=c配合,满贯兴趣。4d/4H/4S=都是扣叫,东不问关键张是因为自己除了关键张没别的东西了,适合答叫。4NT=关键张问叫5d=1或4个关键张,对c的关键张问叫,流行使用0314. 判断:㈠东家有仨A1K,应该没有其他点力了,因为他毕竟没有加倍出套,虽然16、7点也有直接出套的,但如果18、9点也直接出套,会造成同伴7点左右叫牌困难,导致丢局。 ㈡同伴牌型应该是2245或者3145。在这种牌型点力下,7c需要c22且h不弱于42.或者c31,那么H就得33.两种概率加一块也不到60%,低于大满贯需要的75%。 结论:保守的,叫6c,激进的叫7c! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejacket Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 1.2s 起步最好2.约定配合显示叫的话,可以叫3H,没有约定也可以叫3H。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
U19 Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 这是个自缚手脚的问题,我曾呼吁过多次了,3阶内的跳新花叫牌:就当长套加配合的低限邀叫以上的牌,逼叫一把--这牌到4C!这牌简单的叫3H,那么既不会放弃H的成局配合机会,也不会逃掉直接争叫花色C的加叫机会!后面争叫人可以扣叫开始了,本牌例的后续进程就没任何难度了吧:如果4NT后是H配合的关键张问叫,那么扣叫还是原先花色的探讨,不会有误会的! 就跳新花的定义的好处在于:多一种手段,我以为那是必须的,而就如伯根1M-3m的进程,其实是没多大意义的设计,而如果当弱跳,那么更是拍脑袋的方法;而老式的16p以上的好牌,现在的角度看,那也太过于矫枉过正!大家能听我一句话,那么可能就如二盖一的进程会发生大量的重复定义,那是后事,而我的观点是何苦死守进局逼叫呢,今天不讨论下去! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zs_xjm Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 如果有约定,配合显示叫确实最符合这把牌, 但6张H, 邀请实力的牌就没有办法表示了(2H并不邀请), 而这种牌应该更常见. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fppt Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 东的第一争叫,个人赞成是2C。叫1NT后续很难处理。西家的牌,我会选择3D=对C极好支持的跳扣,显示控制。1S 2C P 3DP 3H P 4CP 4D P 4HP 东家除了S有一墩没交待以外,其他均看不出输墩,最多再问下控制,6C很容易叫出来吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 28, 2013 Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp]266|200[/hv] [hv=d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1s2cp3dp3hp4hp4np5np7cppp]266|200[/hv] 3♦=单缺,♣极配3♥=扣叫或第二套4♥=双套配!否则可以叫回4♣4NT=双套的罗马关键张问叫5NT=2个关键张+2个Q7♣=绝配哦~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzdhy668 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 00master: 高明 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
670922 Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 学习了, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 29, 2013 Report Share Posted March 29, 2013 好多进程里西家居然不出H套 :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaoqi Posted March 30, 2013 Report Share Posted March 30, 2013 这牌E方第一声就有问题 如果他x W方2h他再扣2s这牌就显示岀来了 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted April 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2013 [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp]266|200[/hv] 我放言:这牌就要高精尖武器装备,否则很容易蒙上去,这不是一名优秀叫牌狙击手所为。不服吧,您来试试。 看看这样的手段如何?请欣赏: [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp3hp3np4dp4np6cp7cppp]266|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haikuo Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 我没看出来合理的进程,但我可以说2H 不逼叫,当然PD点高肯定会再次叫牌的 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted April 24, 2013 Report Share Posted April 24, 2013 看看这样的手段如何?请欣赏: [hv=pc=n&w=s643hkq954d6caq73&e=sa2ha2da975ckjt98&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=1s2cp3hp3np4dp4np6cp7cppp]266|200[/hv]我理解:3h=配合显示叫,表示草花极配,红心至少5张含2张大牌。3nt,这个3nt我还不敢确定,我觉得可能就是想打。4d,3h已经表示草花至少红心9张,这个4d肯定是spl.4nt是双套关键张问叫,6c=2a+hq+cq开叫人几乎看到了13墩,因此7c.另外一个话题:东家的牌我觉得可能争叫1nt稍微更合理一点,那么后续进程1nt-2d2h-3c3d-4c,这个3d很自然是对草花支持的扣叫,从应叫人来看,排除方块后,开叫人只要12p联手达成23p就肯定保证要叫到6c,因此可以4c发动问叫,由于先表达了红心套,此时是双套关键张问叫4d-6c,应叫人看到开叫人几乎没有其他实力了,将满足于6c.这牌7c还是稍显不足,至少没有75%的机会吧。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted April 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 1-3nt表示好牌力,愿意接受进局,♠有确切一止。2-4♦=扣叫控制3-Double RKCB绝大多次一定是4nt叫品。在我们哈代体系中,也有双套关键张问叫用非4nt叫品的情况。 另外一个话题:东家的牌我觉得可能争叫1nt稍微更合理一点,那么后续进程 如果是我,我一定会叫2♣,不会叫1nt的。从心理上讲,1nt能最大限度告诉同伴hcp是多少,担心同伴8-9hcp时的丢局。这是你的主要关心点吧。那么在选择1nt还是2♣,谁更具描述性呢?1-持有5422牌型,双高挡张是否够用?除非♠是AQ,这样的1nt会更好。1nt是双刃剑。2-这种牌面更愿意打有将牌,而掩盖了花色长度,在后续叫牌进程中上7就会非常困难。3-我笃信多数人会自动选择2♣。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuhuan Posted April 25, 2013 Report Share Posted April 25, 2013 体会:因个人理解不同牌无定式,能到罗马我认为都是强手。看后更加期待对高精尖武器的深入讲解:1、跳叫3H;2、4NT两套关键张问叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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