transfer Walsh in 3rd/4th

[steve2005]

if playing transfer Walsh is transfers still normally played in 3rd/4th seat

 

transfer walsh over 1♣

1♦=♥

1♥=♠

1♠=balanced or minors

 

i would think not playing transfers would be good as you can open light in 3rd/4th and pass responders 1 bid and play at 1 level

for example P-P-1♣-P-1♥-all pass

[MickyB]

I've not heard of anyone ditching T-Walsh in 3rd+4th. What you say is true but I doubt the effect is sufficient to make natural responses better than transfers.

 

By the way, my 1D opening is either natural or a weak NT. After a 1st/2nd seat opening I play 1H = spades, 1S = hearts in some partnerships, but after a 3rd/4th seat opening I play 1M = natural. This is a much easier change to make than reverting to natural responses to 1C.

[Gerben42]

Well you can still pass 1♣ - 1red - 1M, so I don't really see the point. Besides is there really a gain in opening 1♣ underweight? I can see 1M light annoying opps, but not really 1♣.

[fromageGB]

I certainly play Twalsh in all seats, with the same continuations. It's not just the transfer that helps, but the ability to show the length and strength in the majors that you do not get with natural responses.

 

As to opening 1♣ light in 3rd seat, I think this is risky when partner turns out to have an invitational hand (he invites because when you are stronger you may have game). However, it is preemptive, and 4th seat does not have the same options as he has when you pass. I did try this for a spell, by agreement with partner, and it did not seem to help. We reverted to full strength throughout. When I reverted I made a note of those hands I passed where I would have opened light, and looking at them afterwards came to the unscientific conclusion that steady in all seats is best.

[benlessard]

What you can do is accepting the transfer at the one level is very minimum or 3 cards and jumping to 2M is 4 cards decent opener. That way you shouldnt get overboard if opener doesnt have a full opener and you have a major fit.

 

Over

 

1C--1D

1S--

 

you might end up in 2Nt you there is enouhg gadget available to be able to avoid the 3 level.

 

I think that an underweight 1C opener is probably not a significant positive EV IMO. So just play steady 1C and youll be fine.

[gnasher]

I think transfers are even more useful as a passed hand, because it lets you bid your hand sensibly without any risk of partner passing you out in one of a major.

[c_corgi]

This is a much easier change to make than reverting to natural responses to 1C.

 

Do you have any statistics to support the ease with which your partners revert to natural PH responses over 1D? :P

[yunling]

Don't think transfer walsh make any problem here, generally you don't open a light 1♣, and here you are still able to play in 1M anyway.

 

But I'm thinking of stop playing Kaplan inversion in 3rd/4th, since 1♥ can be a light opener.

[fromageGB]

But I'm thinking of stop playing Kaplan inversion in 3rd/4th, since 1♥ can be a light opener.

When I did play possibly light 1M in 3rd/4th seat, we still used KI as responder, (as well as Drury type 2m) and did not find it a problem. If that is your normal method, why change? (We dropped light 1M when we switched to a weak 2M being possibly 5 card.)