lycier Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 [hv=sn=Meckstroth&s=SJT5HDAQJ98CJ8752&wn=Nystrom&w=SA7HJ3DT7643CK943&nn=Rodwell&n=SQ9863HK7642DKCQ6&en=Upmark&e=SK42HAQT985D52CAT&d=s&v=o&b=43&a=PP1S2H2N!(Limit%20Raise%20+%20in%20%21ss%2C%20maybe%203)D3S4H4SPPDPPP&p=D5D8D3DKH4H5S5H3DAD4C6D2DQD7CQS2SKSTS7S3S4SJSAS6HJH2HQC2CAC5C3S8H7H8D9D6CTCJCKH6&c=6]499|350[/hv] 这是2013 Vanderbilt杯赛上3/4赛程中的一副牌面：已知2nt表示限制性加叫，4张支持，也许是3张支持。结果，麦克·斯特罗斯强行4♠，遭致加倍宕四的惨运！伟大的一代枭雄，我们不敢评说，但是我要呼喊：Pass永远是一个选择！你的想法也是这样吗？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungh Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 北作为开叫方，虽有牌型，但是在长套中大牌较少，在短套上又有大牌，牌力分散，要减值的。这手牌没有开叫的价值。如果把♦K和♣Q换成♠K和♥Q，我会开叫1♠。同样的大牌点，价值显然不同。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted March 23, 2013 Report Share Posted March 23, 2013 RM也得止于八强了，和华人队一样。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wqiqiqi Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 同意2楼观点。PASS是最好的选择，除非形势不佳拼搏，但也是小概率。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 2013 Vanderbilt杯赛巡礼：积极的弱二(一) [hv=sn=Welland&s=S43HKT943DA5CKQT3&wn=Upmark&w=SAK72HAQDT976C964&nn=Auken&n=SQJ985H72DKJ84C75&en=Nyström&e=ST6HJ865DQ32CAJ82&d=n&v=e&b=41&a=2SPPP&p=H6HTHQH7S2SQS6S3H2H5H3HAD9DJDQDAHKS7S8H8C7CAC3C9HJH4C6S5C5C2CKC4D5D6D8D3D4D2S4D7CQSADKC8DTS9STH9CJCTSKSJ]499|350[/hv] [hv=sn=Brink&s=S43HKT943DA5CKQT3&wn=Kamil&w=SAK72HAQDT976C964&nn=Drijver&n=SQJ985H72DKJ84C75&en=Fleisher&e=ST6HJ865DQ32CAJ82&d=n&v=e&b=9&a=2S(5+%21S)PPP&p=D2D5D9DJC5CAC3C4H6HKHAH7HQH2H5H3C9C7CJCKS3S2SQS6D4D3DAD7HTC6S5H8D8DQS4D6CQSKDKC2DT&c=7]499|350[/hv] 看来世界高手们都是积极的乐观主义者，值得我们学习。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 24, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 2013 Vanderbilt杯赛巡礼：满贯边缘估值(二) [hv=sn=Zia&s=SA96HA83DKT74CAT6&wn=Verhees&w=SQJ4HJ76D852C5432&nn=Martel&n=ST5HKQT54DAJ6CKQ8&en=vProoijen&e=SK8732H92DQ93CJ97&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=P1NP2DP2HP4NP5HPPP&p=SJS5S2SAHAH6H4H2H3H7HKH9HQS3H8HJ&c=11]499|350[/hv] [hv=sn=Welland&s=SA96HA83DKT74CAT6&wn=Upmark&w=SQJ4HJ76D852C5432&nn=Auken&n=ST5HKQT54DAJ6CKQ8&en=Nyström&e=SK8732H92DQ93CJ97&d=e&v=b&b=42&a=P1N(14-16)P2D!(transfer)P2HP3NP4HPPP&p=SQS5S2SAH3H7HKH2H4H9HAH6H8HJHQS8H5S7S6C2DAD3D4D2DJD9D7D5D6DQDKD8&c=13]499|350[/hv] [hv=sn=Brink&s=SA96HA83DKT74CAT6&wn=Kamil&w=SQJ4HJ76D852C5432&nn=Drijver&n=ST5HKQT54DAJ6CKQ8&en=Fleisher&e=SK8732H92DQ93CJ97&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=P1N(15-17)P2D(%21H)P2HP4N(quantitative)P6HPPP&p=SJS5S7SAH3H7HKH2H4H9HAH6H8HJHQS3STS2S6SQS4H5S8S9HTSKD4C2CKC7C6C3CQC9CTC4C8CJCAC5D7D2DAD3&c=12]499|350[/hv] Van Prooijen队的Drijver - Brink真不愧是一代枭雄，积极进取的攻击风格捞取了大量分分！ Ace的估值远比4要大！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 约定是S+m，54+套，就是很正常的开叫 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 只能说，罗麦双方都高估了同伴手里的牌的实力。罗德威尔在对手加倍2NT这个限制性叫品之后，是叫3S示弱还是pass示弱呢？ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 Drijver - Brink已经有中国名字了，叫巴司机和舒柏林，代表普得时代打A俱呢~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 叫到6是绝对的错误，要么4H，要么7NT :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 24, 2013 Report Share Posted March 24, 2013 统计表明Muiderberg 2M开叫的平均IMP是负的，而且5422对于阻击叫来说也是很糟糕的牌型。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 在Vanderbilt杯赛上，我们清晰地看到萨宾娜·奥肯一反常态启用了一个已经淘汰的约定叫，让人忍俊不止，那就是：Flannary 2♦开叫，她的开叫定义是：非强即弱。实战牌面如下： [hv=sn=Welland&s=SAT92H983D7CK9432&wn=Upmark&w=SQ754HAD865432CA5&nn=Auken&n=SKJ83HKQJ54DAJ9CT&en=Nyström&e=S6HT762DKQTCQJ876&d=w&v=n&b=44&a=P2D!(Flannery%3B%20weak%20or%20strong)P2SPPP&p=D5DADTD7HKH2H8HAD2D9DQS2H3C5HQH6DJDKS9D3H9S4H4HTCACTC8C2D4H5H7STCKS5S8C6S3S6SAS7&c=10]499|350[/hv]过宽的开叫阶梯，直接导致了同伴间的不成功猜测！！！ 对待我们二盖一体系而言，真的没必要如此煞费苦心出此奇招。那么，牌到了伟大的莫哈默德·齐亚手里，将会是怎样呢？ [hv=sn=Zia&s=SAT92H983D7CK9432&wn=Verhees&w=SQ754HAD865432CA5&nn=Martel&n=SKJ83HKQJ54DAJ9CT&en=vProoijen&e=S6HT762DKQTCQJ876&d=w&v=n&b=12&a=1S(canape)2HP4HPPP&p=S6STSQSKDADTD7D4D9DQH3D2H8HAH4H2D3DJDKH9C2CACTC6D8HJC7C3HKH6C4&c=10]499|350[/hv] 看看吧，Zia毫不犹豫轻松进局。结果MK。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 荷兰的Drijver-Brink这对搭档，一路过关斩将，英勇神武，不过我发现世界大师们往往都是乐观主义者，有时候乐观过度了，看看下面一副实战： [hv=sn=Brink&s=ST92HT83DKJ976CJ4&wn=Kamil&w=SAQ85HKJ6DQ52C973&nn=Drijver&n=SJ7HA754DA8CAKQ85&en=Fleisher&e=SK643HQ92DT43CT62&d=e&v=o&b=14&a=PP1CD1H(%21S)2D2S(4%21S)DP3DP3SP3NPPP&p=C7C5CTCJC4C3C8C2CQC6H3C9S7SKS2S8H2H8HJHACAS3HTH6CKD3D6HKDAD4D7D5D8DTDKD2DJDQH4S4&c=8]499|350[/hv]kamil和fleisher眼睛瞪着跟包子一样大，仿佛再问：Brink，你的第九墩长在哪里呢？ 牌到了萨宾娜手中，变得十分冷静，分寸十分恰当： [hv=sn=Welland&s=ST92HT83DKJ976CJ4&wn=Upmark&w=SAQ85HKJ6DQ52C973&nn=Auken&n=SJ7HA754DA8CAKQ85&en=Nyström&e=SK643HQ92DT43CT62&d=e&v=o&b=46&a=PP1CDP1DP1NPPP&p=C2CJC9C5C4C7CACTCKC6H3C3CQS3H8S5C8H2S2H6DAD3D6D5D8D4DKD2HTHJHAH9&c=8]499|350[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 代表丹麦的Auken，她的搭档Welland突然间脑袋灵光一闪，惊世骇俗地五阶阻击叫！ [hv=sn=Welland&s=SHKQ974DCQJT98653&wn=Upmark&w=S9632H3DAKT987CA2&nn=Auken&n=ST874HT8652DJ6CK7&en=Nystrom&e=SAKQJ5HAJDQ5432C4&d=n&v=n&b=37&a=P1S5C5SPPP&p=HK&c=13]499|350[/hv] 东西家这个郁闷呀，痛失大满贯了！就在人们叹息的时刻，仿佛天际间一道耀眼光芒闪过，啊！------那是M Bilde---D Bilde的一记世界波划破天空！！！ [hv=sn=Fallenius&s=SHKQ974DCQJT98653&wn=M Bilde&w=S9632H3DAKT987CA2&nn=Fredin&n=ST874HT8652DJ6CK7&en=D Bilde&e=SAKQJ5HAJDQ5432C4&d=n&v=n&b=37&a=P1S5C6CP!7SPPP&p=HK&c=13]499|350[/hv] 何等等的英雄气魄！纯粹的世界波！看着真过瘾，够刺激的了。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yunling Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 Zia本人以前和Rosenberg或者Hamman搭档的时候也用Flannery（当然是普通的那种），有名的牌手中使用Flannery的还有Miles-Korbel、Levin-Weinstein、Martel-Stansby等。说过时了还是有点夸张，虽然很多人（包括我自己）对这个约定有强烈的厌恶情绪。 不太清楚“非强即弱”的含义倒底是什么，不过既然15点可以开2D，那么看起来强是21+或者22+，弱是11-15(16)。这牌正好卡了上限，Welland担心叫3M打不成而不做邀叫很正常。另一桌争叫2H的实力范围和Flannery不同，所以Zia直接进局也正常，这两桌叫牌结果的不同其实是很正常的，就像15-17的1NT开叫和14-16的区别一样…… 当然，只要西家进手时回出S给东将吃，4H是打不成的，可惜Verhees没防对。事实上北坐庄主打3NT才是正确的定约 :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 莫哈默德·齐亚和搭档Martel终于逮住一次机会了，因为他们的对手是Prooijen队的老板Prooijen ！队式赛就要欺软的，不能从弱旅全取分分，这牌就每个玩了，请看看Martel如何痛下杀手，施展九阴白骨爪 ！ [hv=sn=Zia&s=SQJT4HAJ2DAQTCJT9&wn=Verhees&w=S982H754D985CQ653&nn=Martel&n=S65HKT863D76CA842&en=vProoijen&e=SAK73HQ9DKJ432CK7&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1NP2DDPPR2SD3DDPPP&p=S6SAS4S2CKCJC3CAD6D2DTD5H2H4HKH9D7D3DQD8DAD9&c=5]499|350[/hv] 而那边的Drijver - Brink也是痛下杀手，他们久已把缜密的约定性叫牌练至惊世骇俗的十层功力的九阴白骨爪 ！ [hv=sn=Brink&s=SQJT4HAJ2DAQTCJT9&wn=Kamil&w=S982H754D985CQ653&nn=Drijver&n=S65HKT863D76CA842&en=Fleisher&e=SAK73HQ9DKJ432CK7&d=s&v=n&b=15&a=1NP2D(%21H)DR(3%21H%2C%20you%20play%20it)P3HP3NPPDPPP&p=D9D6D4DTHAH4H3H9HJH5H6HQS3SQS2S5H2H7H8D3S6SKS4S9SASTS8C2D2DQD5D7&c=10]499|350[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yaoqi Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 我是肯定第二桌的叫品 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 东西叫出S后确实不好处理了，这牌关键是舒柏林的2D可以先不叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
00master Posted March 25, 2013 Report Share Posted March 25, 2013 就看手段多不多~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
000ffj Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 西家可以5nt。这种高阶竟叫可以打turbo,平叫nt表示偶数个关键张，越过平级nt的扣叫表示奇数个关键张，那么双方至少不会缺少顶级控制。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 [hv=sn=Willenken&s=SAQ9H65DA642CA853&wn=Verhees&w=SKJ853HAT74DKT5C4&nn=Rosenberg&n=ST76HK8DQ873C QJ96&en=VProoijen&e=S42HQJ932DJ9CKT72&d=w&v=n&b=60&a=1HP3HP4HPPP&p=CQC2C5C4C6CTCAH4HAH8H2H5H 7HKH3H6CJCKC3S3DJDAD5D7SAS5S7S4S9SKS6S2&c=9]499|350[/hv] verhees在弱跳3h加叫后，竟然不顾一切进局，高估其单张价值，不顾及低限牌力分布分散的贬值因素强 行进局，正应了我的那句话：世界大师常常都是过于乐观主义者，这副牌，为什么一定会下一？估值贬值因素很多，我认为C的配合差到了无以附加的地步：本来老板 vprooijen就是弱牌，倒霉的是CK遇到了开叫人的单缺花色，请大家一定记住这一估值定理：长套大牌对 上同伴的单缺花色不是财富，而面对同伴的单缺花色，其次级大牌讲丧失其原有价值，这牌很显然CK毫无 价值可言！4H-1 [hv=sn=Brink&s=SAQ9H65DA642CA853&wn=Zia&w=SKJ853HAT74DKT5C4&nn=Drijver&n=ST76HK8DQ873CQJ96&en=Ma rtel&e=S42HQJ932DJ9CKT72&d=w&v=n&b=60&a=PP3HP4HPPDRPPP&p=H6H4HKH3D3DJDAD5CAC4C9C2SAS3S6S2D2D KD7D9SKS7S4S9DTDQH2&c=9]499|350[/hv] Zia小心翼翼地于第一家pass了，Martel竟然异想天开把应该开叫2h的牌，却是抽出了3h放到了牌桌，不 遵守约定的叫牌形同双刃剑，Zia哪知道同伴竟会如此，在4h后，贪心地打出了双加倍......我为Zia感动伤悲！ 4Hxx-1 牌到了Auken手中，她们动用了世界上先进的武器装备，充分的准备，得到了回报： [hv=sn=Upmark&s=SAQ9H65DA642CA853&wn=Welland&w=SKJ853HAT74DKT5C4&nn=Nyström&n=ST76HK8DQ873CQJ96&en=Auken&e=S42HQJ932DJ9CKT72&d=w&v=n&b=60&a=1S!P2C!P2D!P2HPPP&p=H6H4HKH2H8HQH5H7S4SAS3S7D4DKD3D9C4CQCKCAD2D5DQDJD7H3D6DT&c=9]499|350[/hv] 我勉强解说一下吧：萨宾娜的2C应叫就相当于逼叫性1nt应叫，其含义是：1- 对同伴开叫人开叫的花色是0-1张配合，0-13hcp。2-对同伴开叫人开叫的花色是2张配合，0-9hcp。 而她们的应叫逼叫性1nt是逼局性接力叫。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 [hv=sn=D Bilde&s=SAJ95HKJT7DJT5CK7&wn=Fredin&w=S87HAQ63D643CT983&nn=M Bilde&n=SK64H542DK972CQ65&en=Fallenius&e=SQT32H98DAQ8CAJ42&d=s&v=o&b=59&a=1HP2HDPPP&p=S8S4SQSADTD6D2DQS2S5S7SKH2H8HKHAC8C5CJCKD5D4D9DAS3S9H3S6C3C6CAC7STSJH6D7D3DKD8DJH4H9HJHQ&c=6]499|350[/hv] D Bilde手持4-4高花，竟然选择开叫4张的H，同伴的2♥是标准的建设性加叫，无可指责，不幸地是怎能逃过世界专家的读牌发言，2HX-2 ！ [hv=sn=Upmark&s=SAJ95HKJT7DJT5CK7&wn=Welland&w=S87HAQ63D643CT983&nn=Nyström&n=SK64H542DK972C Q65&en=Auken&e=SQT32H98DAQ8CAJ42&d=s&v=o&b=59&a=1C!P1S!P1N! PPP&p=C9C5C4CKDJD6D2DQH8HJHQH2CTC6C2C7C3CQCAS5CJD5C8S4H9HTHAH4D4D7DADT&c=6]499|350[/hv] 牌发到了Upmark手中，开叫短梅花1♣，没毛病，他们采用转移性Walsh约定性应叫，同伴应叫1♠表示转移接力至 1nt。结果-1.这就是先进的转移性体系所表现出的优势。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 体系分高低，武器分高低。从来只有新人笑，有谁见过旧人哭！大家看看吧，高手之间的较量真的只是比的内功吗？！！！ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cqwbc Posted March 27, 2013 Report Share Posted March 27, 2013 [hv=sn=Upmark&s=SAJ95HKJT7DJT5CK7&wn=Welland&w=S87HAQ63D643CT983&nn=Nyström&n=SK64H542DK972C Q65&en=Auken&e=SQT32H98DAQ8CAJ42&d=s&v=o&b=59&a=1C!P1S!P1N! PPP&p=C9C5C4CKDJD6D2DQH8HJHQH2CTC6C2C7C3CQCAS5CJD5C8S4H9HTHAH4D4D7DADT&c=6]499|350[/hv] 牌发到了Upmark手中，开叫短梅花1♣，没毛病，他们采用转移性Walsh约定性应叫，同伴应叫1♠表示转移接力至 1nt。结果-1.这就是先进的转移性体系所表现出的优势。应叫1S不是强制转移1NT，而是告诉PD自己没有4张高花，当PD是非均型牌时可以不叫1NT的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lycier Posted March 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2013 嗯，这些都是转移类体系叫牌常规，1♣短梅花开叫，表示2+，均型，非均型的5张，或强牌等定义。后续约定叫叫牌都有严密的表达方式，但一般牌面而言，1♠否定4张高花，♠0-3，是要求接力至1nt的。比如，这一点不论是Bocchi-Duboin还是Fantunes体系上，均有类似的约定。一般简略地就说，1[spades接力至1nt]的。 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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