jillybean Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 AJ54 QJ65432 87 V both vulnerable (p) 1S (2C) 3C(4C) X (P) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I wish I bid 3♥ fit jump last round. But now having bid 3♣ I pull to 4♠. I'd like to pull to 4♥ to offer that, but partner might not know I have spades support (versus a good hand fishing for 3nt with club stopper). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 I would have tried 3 ♥ 4 ♥ or 4 ♣ last round, now I abstain.... Okay- 4 ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 4♠, I see one trick on defense and anywhere from 3-8 on offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 Definitely pull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 4♠ is clear, unless partner stood up on his chair and bellowed "DOUBLE" at the top of his lungs over 4♣. (I might even bid 4♠ if he did that) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted March 21, 2013 Report Share Posted March 21, 2013 4 ♠ as you have absolutely no defense against 4 ♣. For 4 ♣ doubled to be right, partner likely has to 4+ tricks in his own hand. Unfortunately, the 3 ♣ cue makes partner think you have some values. If you're weren't going to show ♥ on this hand, did you consider bidding 4 ♠ initially? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq972hkdaq5cjt976&w=saj54hqj65432d87c&n=shat98djt6432c543&e=skt863h7dk9cakq82&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=p1s2c3c4cdp4sppp]399|300[/hv] No fit jump, I thought we only played fit jumps by a passed hand. I know better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 No fit jump, I thought we only played fit jumps by a passed hand. I know better now.Looks like both your opponents are lunatics. Even so, what are you leading against 4♣x? It looks like south can ruff three spades in dummy for down only two. Meanwhile 4♠ has decent chances despite the trump situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sq972hkdaq5cjt976&w=saj54hqj65432d87c&n=shat98djt6432c543&e=skt863h7dk9cakq82&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=p1s2c3c4cdp4sppp]399|300[/hv] No fit jump, I thought we only played fit jumps by a passed hand. I know better now.As you already know, S didn't have a 2♣ overcall. You can't allow unusual actions by mp opps to cause you to start changing the way you bid your hands. Btw, I wouldn't have used a fit jump on this hand even if it were available (which it would be for me in most partnerships). I'd bid a quiet 2♥ in order to keep the bidding low. Of course, there's a risk that LHO is going to raise clubs, and thus undo my attempt to save space. On a bad day he bids 5♣ and I haven't shown my spades yet! But as your partner, I would not expect such a heart suit for a fit jump...I'd definitely expect stronger hearts (and shorter as well, but it's the strength that is important for me), so I don't think that a fit jump really helps partner with valuation so I'd hope that either LHO passes over 2♥ or bids 3 or 4 clubs. As it was, you had to pull. It will be a long time before your partner has that sort of defensive trump holding on this kind of bidding :P One reason that there are so many bad players playing is that bridge is probabilistic: even horrible actions sometimes give rise to great results. Your S no doubt feels that he or she was brilliant rather than idiotic. Let him or her enjoy the feeling....he or she is a very weak player (or was just goofing around). Don't think that you have 'learned something' about pulling doubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted March 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 As it was, you had to pull. It will be a long time before your partner has that sort of defensive trump holding on this kind of bidding :P Hopefuly this is your understatement of the year :) When ever I made overcalls like this I'd get caught out, such as the one still fresh inmy memory from my first trip to Penticton. I went for something like -1400 in my first teams event after a 2C overcall like this one. If I had just 3 card spade support 2H looks like a very reasonable bid but after that will I ever convince partner I have 4 card support for his suit?I thought it was best to show the 4 card support immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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