preempts are annoying

[billw55]

[hv=pc=n&n=sj7432hdaqt854c64&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=pp4sdp]200|300[/hv]

 

Matchpoints, nobody vulnerable. Above average club field, and this particular EW are national caliber players.

 

Now what?

 

If you would bid at north's first turn, feel free to say so.

[gszes]

there is no intelligent way to explore 7d. That means 6d (if it makes 920)

is the best we can hope for from bidding---since it seems reasonable to

assume p has the rounded AK's there is a really good chance of setting

4s for 500 even 800 some days. I think i will trade in my maybe off the top

small slam for a possible MP top by passing for penalty

[hrothgar]

there is no intelligent way to explore 7d. That means 6d (if it makes 920)

is the best we can hope for from bidding---since it seems reasonable to

assume p has the rounded AK's there is a really good chance of setting

4s for 500 even 800 some days. I think i will trade in my maybe off the top

small slam for a possible MP top by passing for penalty

 

There is also the risk that if we bid a making small slam, partner might do something unfortunate

[PhilKing]

This looks remarkably like a 5♦ bid.

[Fluffy]

6♦ it will be impossible to tell if we have a spade or club loser, no science is possible so aim for the most likelly contract

[Codo]

I pass, I am afraid that 6 diamond may not even make or that 5 Diamond is not enough to compensate.

[the hog]

This looks remarkably like a pass.

[Lord Molyb]

Pretty close but I pass convincingly.

[billw55]

Aha, some support for three different calls: pass, 5♦, and 6♦. These were the calls I considered at the table, after a moderate tank I passed without confidence. This netted us +100 for half a matchpoint. Looking at the traveller, the joint top was 5♦+1, +420. Nobody bid 6.

 

In the post mortem, east told me (in so many words) don't worry, pass is auto. Obviously it didn't work out, I started thinking I should really bid diamonds, but then am I just resulting myself? eh ... I have several bad memories of passing takeout doubles with long but weak trumps, now this one too.

 

Partner held ♠T ♥ATxx ♦KJxx ♣AKJx. Declarer was 7303, the club queen in dummy held it to down 1, although even +300 was below average.

[gszes]

Aha, some support for three different calls: pass, 5♦, and 6♦. These were the calls I considered at the table, after a moderate tank I passed without confidence. This netted us +100 for half a matchpoint. Looking at the traveller, the joint top was 5♦+1, +420. Nobody bid 6.

 

In the post mortem, east told me (in so many words) don't worry, pass is auto. Obviously it didn't work out, I started thinking I should really bid diamonds, but then am I just resulting myself? eh ... I have several bad memories of passing takeout doubles with long but weak trumps, now this one too.

 

Partner held ♠T ♥ATxx ♦KJxx ♣AKJx. Declarer was 7303, the club queen in dummy held it to down 1, although even +300 was below average.

 

ill assume by below average you mean like 45% since down 2 seems pretty automatic for 300---preempts are indeed annoying thats why they work

at IMPS I would have been much happier with bidding 5d but at MP a decent chance at a top is too much to pass up you cant guess right all of

the time it is a game of %. If we were that good at guessing casinos would have no chance:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

[Codo]

So, this is more or less the diagramm- just the heart honurs are divided in some way or another and the important 9 of diamonds may be with south...

 

I do understand the high club lead but even than, with best defence, you get 6 tricks for 4 ♠ X -3 and a top. And how can you manage to give him a 9. trick?

 

And how did the field managed to score 12 tricks in diamonds? Or was the nine of diamonds with partner not with Dummy?

[PhilKing]

And if partner had a void spade, we were making 6♦ with 4♠ often cold eg ♠- ♥AJxx ♦KJxx ♣KQJxx.

 

You need a lot for 6♦, so it's really out of line to bid it, but if partner has the void and good controls, he will raise.

[billw55]

So, this is more or less the diagramm- just the heart honurs are divided in some way or another and the important 9 of diamonds may be with south...

 

I do understand the high club lead but even than, with best defence, you get 6 tricks for 4 ♠ X -3 and a top. And how can you manage to give him a 9. trick?

 

And how did the field managed to score 12 tricks in diamonds? Or was the nine of diamonds with partner not with Dummy?

True, our defense was bad, but I didn't think -3 was possible. Which 6 tricks can we take? Even if we can get a second ruff, it gives up the natural trump trick. Three ruffs maybe .. south starting hearts? ok, possible.

 

I don't remember where the ♦9 was, but I suppose it makes sense it was in south, based on the other results.

[Free]

Either you pass or you bid 6♦, flip a coin. Anything else seems weird to me.