akhare Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 IMPs, vul. vs. not, you deal and open a 16+ 1♣: AKJ9x Txx Ax AQ9 1♣ - (2♦) - P* - (3♦) - ? 2♦ was natural and ostensibly weak. Pard's P denied a takeout shape with 6(5)+ HCPs, a balanced GF hand, a GF with a 5+ card suit, or 6+ card major suit with semi-positive+ suit strength. What's your bid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 pass, x or 3s should be more than 16-18 bal.pass will very often show roughly 16-18 bal.pard is allowed to balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Pass seems obvious. Partner is still there and can balance (usually with a double) quite freely, having limited his hand. We may miss an occasional partscore but we shouldn't be missing many games if he is unable to do anything. I'd need an extra spade to consider bidding 3♠, longer hearts to consider doubling, and a much better hand to consider 3N. Btw, the title is misleading: passing in this situation is not surrendering or 'going out quietly'. It is making a normal call in an action that is still alive after our pass. Partner is the one who will likely have the 'bid or go out quietly' choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 I guess I need to bid in a polish style, but I am very happy to play prec. for this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 It's difficult to have discipline on this sort of hands, but I'd pass. Partner doesn't rate to have a useful hand (he must be short in ♦ but didn't have any bid available). For the record, Dbl is imo slightly better than 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 1♣ - (2♦) - P* - (3♦) - ? 2♦ was natural and ostensibly weak. Pard's P denied a takeout shape with 6(5)+ HCPs, a balanced GF hand, a GF with a 5+ card suit, or 6+ card major suit with semi-positive+ suit strength. *** As I play P* as Spades-not-misfit, (X= not Sxxx+, SJx+),NOT bidding 3S denies 5+S, my bid is 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Thanks for the feedback. On this hand, the opps played in 3♦ in their 9 card fit, making. Pard had a near yard with 5-4 in the majors and 3♠ makes as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted March 18, 2013 Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Thanks for the feedback. On this hand, the opps played in 3♦ in their 9 card fit, making. Pard had a near yard with 5-4 in the majors and 3♠ makes as well. Seems like it would have made 4S although I may have misremembered. I think opener should act with a minimum and shortness but not minimums and balanced hands...unless holding a 6-cd major. I'd guess that this hand is close to acting but I'd rather reserve a direct bid here for something better...basically to empower responder to raise with more hands. This will lose out sometimes, but it won't allow the opponents to goad us into unmakeable games over and over again. After P P responder might be able to balanced with 3H and hearts could be our best fit. If responder balances with double, it ought to be penalty. This is the same situation as after an opening 2D P 3D P P dbl which is also penalty. Basically, if responder has takeout shape and like 5+ hcps, he needs to double 2D immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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