JLOGIC Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 If you just take out the "lols" part and say it almost exactly the same "This is the sort of hand where it is often difficult to even bid slam because it only has 25-26 HCP, so why should I push for a grand when we are already having a good set." That is complete unoffensive. It might seem implicitly arrogant to some (since you are bidding 6 or 7), so if you wanted to add in that this was a good hand for your system (void showing splinter) and without it, it might be difficult to even bid slam, that might be even better but who cares. Even if you are playing against meckwell they won't be offended when you suggest that with 25 HCP the other table might well play game, and that you are having a good set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 17, 2013 Report Share Posted March 17, 2013 Besides, if you have a club loser, you could be off in 6, if they lead a spade.That is an argument for bidding 5 or 7, whether there is U.I. or not. Also, on this hand, I don't see the damage and don't see how it could get to an AC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted April 18, 2013 Report Share Posted April 18, 2013 If I could not do a poll I would rule against you. Bidding what likely amounts to about an 80 % grand slam must be a logical alternative.Not necessarily. If bidding the grand can gain 1 VP or lose 10 VPs, you may find that others do not consider bidding the grand. The state of the match is relevant. You are thinking about this in completely the wrong way.The question is not what argument should you bring to an appeals committee, the question is what you should bid at the table when you know that- if partner has what he has shown, grand is odds on to be right- bidding grand is a LAOf course if bidding the grand is an LA and partner's actions have suggested not, you must bid it. But .... p.s 'state of the match' arguments in a 7-board swiss with random teammates are somewhat dubious (as demonstrated by the actual state of the match at that point)Maybe so, but bridge is a game of odds, and the state of the match might easily affect those odds, even if you could be wrong [see below :D ]. Opps have already demonstrated by going for a love all 500 that should have been 800 on a partscore board, failing to bid a decent 4♥ and going off in a cold 4♠ that you don't need to bid the grand, and will probably pick up just for bidding the small. You are also confident (wrongly) that you're already winning this match at least 16-4 (this is board 5/7, you were actually only winning 13-7 before this).This reminds me of a match I played with John Armstrong as partner against the top team in North-West England [at that time] of Endicott-Hill-Churney-Reveley. John and I bid a slam off two aces followed by a grand off two aces [neither made], missed two games, and went off in a cold game. On the last board Endicott-Hill had a long and complicated sequence. Eventually Grattan had to decide whether to bid six or seven. A glance at his score-card convinced him and he settled for six - and lost the match! What he said to Reveley-Churney about their card doesn't bear repeating! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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