Competitive Auction

[inquiry]

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There will be a followup question on some auctions after the voting is in. [/hv]

[Lord Molyb]

Isn't this a fairly normal takeout double?

[JLOGIC]

Think it's a 100 % double

[inquiry]

Let me start by agreeing iwth the majority vote (at least so far) tha this is a clear cut takeout double over 3♦, My partner had other ideas, thinking that a double would be penalty... so he went twith 3♠'s. (I sent him a copy of Robson/Segal after this session). On wiith the hand after he picked the 2♠ response. The auction continued... .

 

 

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Assuming that either 3♠ was your choiice over 3♦, or you are called as a replacement at this point in the auction. Are you done with the auction or do you find another bid? [/hv]

[Fluffy]

I would double, assuming you mean 4♦-pass-pass

[gszes]

Let me try and make a case for 3s vs double---

 

the spade suit is very very nice and perfectly playable

especially opposite a singleton (especially the Q which

p wont appreciate if we x). IMO we should reserve x for

hands with much less clear direction AJxxxx AQx x Axx

or some such similar hands. 4s is by far our sides most

likely game and it seems a shame we would supress

this fact by using x here.

 

over 4d I would pass p heard our 3s bid and did not wish

to continue (quite possibly having dead dia values even if

they have a spade fit).

[relknes]

3♠ for me, then pass out 4♦.

[Siegmund]

I voted 3S on the first poll, and didn't know what to put on the second: IF you play X as takeout I think it's close between X and 3S -- but without discussion the (old) standard rule is "after anybody bids notrump doubles are penalty", and even with discussion 90+% of the players in my area play it that way, even if "everything is takeout" is popular among modern experts.

 

When 4D comes back I would pass at IMPs but feel I have to double at MPs. I've got 3 tricks myself, partner did bid but didn't raise, he has spade shortness and a couple face cards SOMEwhere. I was expecting 140 or 170, and 4DX-2 is the most obvious way for me to get more than 100.

[Hanoi5]

Should the double be 100% clear? Is it because it is MP's? If we double and partner bids hearts (or clubs) what are we to do?

 

I chose 3♠ but I'd pass over 4♦ (isn't partner's double for penalty over 4♦?)

[Fluffy]

Should the double be 100% clear? Is it because it is MP's? If we double and partner bids hearts (or clubs) what are we to do?

Be happy that we found the best strain if he bids clubs, bid 3♠ to show the nuts over 3♥ hearts. Be also very happy to pass 4♥, knowing we found the strain were ♠Q can be disposed without finese.

 

I chose 3♠ but I'd pass over 4♦ (isn't partner's double for penalty over 4♦?)

Yes, but partner doesn't know we have 3 times the defensive values 3♠ promised