ArtK78 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 12 board match, IMPs converted to VPs. Playing a light opening system, in which the opening bid promises 10 HCP (1NT is 10-12), the following auction unfolds: [hv=pc=n&e=s8632hadaj8762cj7&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1hp1sp2dp3dp3np?]133|200[/hv] 1♠ is natural. A 2/1 in diamonds is not game forcing, but would have shown more values than this hand.2♦ is natural but does not show any extra values, so opener could still have a 10 HCP hand. 1) In this context, do you agree with 3♦?2) After partner bids game, do you take any further action? If so, what is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesh Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I will just bid 5♦ over 2♦ :P I dont want to miss game even against minimum. True I can go down but I am willing to take the risk :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I bid 5♦ now. 3NT looks shaky, and opener probably has a 2-5-4-2 shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'm sitting for 3nt. It makes opposite ♣A, ♥K and some diamond fill if the spades split and they haven't led one yet. Eleven tricks opposite a potential 10 count is too much to hope for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Molyb Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 If opener had a 10 count surely he wouldn't bid 3NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I pass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I pass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 3♦ is a huge underbid, even if partner has a 10 count 100% of the time. I would bid 3♣. I would not sit for 3NT. We could be cold for slam with 3NT down. ♠x ♥Kxxxx ♦Kxxx ♣ATx is a decent slam and partner would pass 3♦. Give him the red queens as well and we are down in 3NT. And don't tell me partner would not bid it with a stiff spade - I have seen it 100 times. I will have to manufacture some sort of recovery shot now. 4♣! If partner has 11 points, maybe he will cue 4♠. :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 agree with codo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted March 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 If opener had a 10 count surely he wouldn't bid 3NT?Indeed he would not. 3♦ is a huge underbid, even if partner has a 10 count 100% of the time. I would bid 3♣. I would not sit for 3NT. We could be cold for slam with 3NT down. ♠x ♥Kxxxx ♦Kxxx ♣ATx is a decent slam and partner would pass 3♦. Give him the red queens as well and we are down in 3NT. And don't tell me partner would not bid it with a stiff spade - I have seen it 100 times. I will have to manufacture some sort of recovery shot now. 4♣! If partner has 11 points, maybe he will cue 4♠. :PYou are on the right track. Except that you seem to want partner to supply information to you, when instead you should be providing information to partner. At the table, I bid 5♦. But, as my partner pointed out, as long as I am going to bid 5♦, how could it be wrong to cue bid the ♥A along the way? This is all partner needs, as his hand is: JJxxxxKQxxAKT He will bid 6♦, which rolls in on a club lead, and which isn't difficult at all on a non-diamond lead. On a diamond lead, you will have to establish the hearts, or, if that doesn't work, take the club finesse. This hand was a push at +420. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 , how could it be wrong to cue bid the ♥A along the way? Depending on the likelihood of playing 4♥.... From wrong to very wrong :) On the other hand.. what were you thinking about Roland? partner's gotta have short spades for his bidding, you fouled me with your double post passing 3NT as it it was obvious. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I would bid 4♥ with ♠xxxx ♥KQ ♦AQxxx ♣xx. Under my generic rules 4♥ is still offering - particularly since I have denied a slam try already. On the other hand.. what were you thinking about Roland? partner's gotta have short spades for his bidding, you fouled me with your double post passing 3NT as it it was obvious. Perhaps you should have agreed with him twice. Two positives mean a negative or is it the other way round? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 f**** you, that was exactly my intention when I saw you posted in the middle making the joke less funny :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinidad Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Agree with Fluffy. I am willing to repeat that if necessary. Rik 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 3, 2013 Report Share Posted March 3, 2013 Indeed he would not. You are on the right track. Except that you seem to want partner to supply information to you, when instead you should be providing information to partner. At the table, I bid 5♦. But, as my partner pointed out, as long as I am going to bid 5♦, how could it be wrong to cue bid the ♥A along the way? This is all partner needs, as his hand is: JJxxxxKQxxAKT He will bid 6♦, which rolls in on a club lead, and which isn't difficult at all on a non-diamond lead. On a diamond lead, you will have to establish the hearts, or, if that doesn't work, take the club finesse. This hand was a push at +420.I don't understand how 4♥ can be a slam try after both players have bid NF. This just offers opener to play 4♥ or 5♦. After this auction and partner's 3NT, I'd just pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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