Vampyr Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 What is LOL is a troll asking someone why answer :), just 2 easy responses: to share his opinion, to contrast his opinion with more experienced ones. Here is L25A -- I am afraid it is not a matter of opinion: LAW 25 - LEGAL AND ILLEGAL CHANGES OF CALL A. Unintended Call 1. Until his partner makes a call, a player may substitute his intended call for an unintended call but only if he does so, or attempts to do so, without pause for thought. The second (intended) call stands and is subject to the appropriate Law. 2. No substitution of call may be made when his partner has made a subsequent call. 3. If the auction ends before it reaches the player’s partner no substitution may occur after the end of the auction period (see Law 22). 4. If a substitution is allowed the LHO may withdraw any call he made over the first call. Information from the withdrawn call is authorized only to his side. There is no further rectification. footnote: A player is allowed to replace an unintended call if the conditions described in Law 25A are met, no matter how he may become aware of his error PS You may think that name-calling adds weight to your argument, but actually it does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 yeah, just saying it is you who asks people why answer should suffice :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted February 27, 2013 Report Share Posted February 27, 2013 yeah, just saying it is you who asks people why answer should suffice :) Not certain what this means, but I will not shift from my position that when a person asks what a law is, they are entitled to be told exactly what it is, not someone's speculation. Do you honestly disagree with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmnka447 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Sorry, but I'd never bid 6 ♦ with this hand. There's just too much that needed for that to be right -- bring in ♦s with no more than one loser AND have no losers outside. Even 5 ♦ may be too high if pard's values are concentrated in ♥. So 3 NT looks like the best bet to me. With a really good player, I'd just bid 3 NT fully expecting partner to pass. And that player would pass for a couple reasons. First, my hand had a chance to compete in ♥s and didn't. Second, after a simple 2 ♥ raise, partner would recognize that a 3 NT bid is highly unusual if not impossible bid. Partner would figure out that I had to have a good reason for making the bid and respect my judgement. That's called partnership trust. If partner did carry on to 4 ♥, it would probably be for holding something like ♥ AKQ10xxx. However, with lesser players, 3 NT would be more of a problem. They'd concentrate on the fact we had a ♥ fit, decide I'd done something stupid,and carry on to 4 ♥ to save me. With these partners, I'd probably bid 3 ♦ fully expecting them to carry on to 3 ♥. After 3 ♥, I'd try 3 NT and maybe then they'd get the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iviehoff Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Are you sure about this ivie? I think calling the Director is always an appropriate way of dealing with an irregularity. What's your problem? I said that calling the Director is an appropriate way to begin your attempt to change the call. Precisely as you say, calling the director is always an appropriate way of dealing with an irregularity. But be aware that there is a point at which this irregularity can no longer be dealt with ie once your partner has called, or if you became aware of it and did not take immediate action. So if it can no longer be dealt with, you would be better not drawing attention to it, because doing so will only give unauthorised information to your partner. You are under no obligation to draw attention to this irregularity, not even an ethical one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 What's your problem?Apparently reading ability. I somehow managed to add an extra not to this sentence. Now it makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordontd Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 What's your problem? I said that calling the Director is an appropriate way to begin your attempt to change the call.It looks to me, having read the two posts, as though he most likely misread what you wrote and saw an extra "not" in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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