jillybean Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saj4hj97542dkq5c7&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1hp1sp?]133|200[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 They used to have hands like this in MSC and the general feeling was that 2C was the best bid even though it's a (small) overbid because it increases the likelihood of playing the right strain. I would go with that, the other option of 3D is just so flawed when it comes to getting to the right strain that I think you have to. Since you don't mention your system, any of these things would help in this case: 1) 1S promises an unbalanced hand (4144 or 45)2) 2C as fourth suit is NOT game forcing (obviously that would be perfect)3) Possibly XYZ, where you could bid 2C then 2H, at least you will not play a ridiculous contract like you would if you had to bid 3H4) Sound opening bids. FWIW I play none of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broze Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 1) 1S promises an unbalanced hand (4144 or 45) Not playing numbers 2, 3 and 4 from your list I am delighted you think that this treatment helps here. I have to admit though, I am struggling to see how? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted February 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I didn't specify system as the friend who gave me the problem doesn't play the same gadgets that I do so we are interestedin how others evaluate the hand. Invitational, if possible or will you make a gf if an invite is not available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=saj4hj97542dkq5c7&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1dp1hp1sp?]133|200[/hv] 3D expresses the strength of the hand. I assume that partner showed an unbalanced hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Not playing numbers 2, 3 and 4 from your list I am delighted you think that this treatment helps here. I have to admit though, I am struggling to see how? You can bid 3D more confidently since partner will usually have 5 diamonds and will also usually have a stiff heart. Taking out 4243 helps feeling comfortable bidding 3D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I would certainly not bid an invitational 3H here, but if I played that 1D - 2H is invitational (which I do with pretty much everybody) then I would have done that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenberg Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 As I usually play, all I know from the auction is that partner has at least four diamonds and exactly four spades. If by any chance he has a supershape with five spades and many diamonds, I will learn that soon. But I strongly expect exactly four. We, meaning most of my partners, do not rebid 1NT skipping over spades just because the hand is balanced. I realize some do, maybe I should, but I don't. So now I bid 2♣. Not for the first time, I wish this were not an absolute game force but it is. I can live with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 My pard has 5+ diamonds unless specifically 4-1-4-4 or some 4-2-5-2 hands. That makes 3♦ less risky than a 4 suit GF for me with the upside of pard bidding 3nt or 3♥ on a suitable doubleton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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