Wackojack Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 [hv=pc=n&n=skqjt76hadq9cq652&d=w&v=0&b=8&a=1c1sp2dp]133|200|Match point pairs[/hv] The 2♦bid we play as forcing. Views on your next bid would be much appreciated. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'd try 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'd try 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billw55 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I upgrade the ♦Q9 and bid 3♠. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted February 23, 2013 Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 3S seems like a normal bid, not an upgrade. Is 2S an alternative? I don't think so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wackojack Posted February 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=s3hkt3dakj8742c94&n=skqjt76hadq9cq652]133|200[/hv]Yes I bid 3♠ also and partner raised to 4♠. Down 2 as west has ♣AKJ108 and can give east 2 club ruffs. This was a very ordinary club MP evening giving us an equal bottom. 3N makes but no pair in it. 4♦makes but it seems a bit much expecting partner to rebid diamonds. Had she done so is this passable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 2♠ is like a "I don't know what to do"-bid (like you open 1♠ and partner responds 2♦). So 3♠ seems very normal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 Hi, 3S is normal, 2S is your weakest response, and I have a way better hand, than my normale rubbish.3S is not forcing, just invitational, but I am not familiar with a style,that plays 2D as forcing. I would guess your partner could be slightly weaker,than the hand she happens to have. Does 2D it deny a fit? If it does, and if 2D showes 5 1/2 diamonds, 3D may bean alternative to 3S. Regarding the final result: You reached game, holding a combined 25HCP count,a misfit to a certain extend, game did not make, next bord. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 25, 2013 Report Share Posted February 25, 2013 I think 2♠ would be pretty ridiculous. The first alternative to 3♠ would surely be 2NT; third choice the overbid of 3♣. 2♠ just does not enter the frame. A better question to ask would have been Advancer's second bid. Overcaller has shown around 12-14, so passing 3♠ on the presumed misfit would not be outrageous, certainly not as bad as a 2♠ rebid from Overcaller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve2005 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 3♥ looking for partner to have a ♥ stopper so you have time to set-up your tricks if you don't have 9 top tricks but i think 3♠ is the practical bid, just unfortunate your down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I am not familiar with 2/1 when advancing an overcall being forcing either (as Marlowe). But, if we did play 2D as forcing, advancer passing a jump rebid from partner would be from another planet. As for the 3S rebid "showing" 12-14 (per Zel), I don't understand unless the top of your overcalls is 14. Our top is 17-ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 As for the 3S rebid "showing" 12-14 (per Zel), I don't understand unless the top of your overcalls is 14. Our top is 17-ish.With a maximum overcall you can cue bid a game-forcing 3♣. That is: 2♠ min; 2NT/3♠ extras but not GF; 3♣ = GF. I thought I had effectively written this in the previous post by describing 3♣ as an overbid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 With a maximum overcall you can cue bid a game-forcing 3♣. That is: 2♠ min; 2NT/3♠ extras but not GF; 3♣ = GF. I thought I had effectively written this in the previous post by describing 3♣ as an overbid.O.K., then that makes two things from this thread I am unfamiliar with. The first was a forcing 2D; the second is 3C by the overcaller being an artificial cue when no fit has been established. We would use 3C to show 5+ clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alik1974 Posted March 10, 2013 Report Share Posted March 10, 2013 If you play 2♦ as forcing, then either the intervenor needs a whole lot to intervene or otherwise your partner's 2♦ is an overbid (You could have bid 1♠ with much less). Also IMO a bid of 3NT might be better than 4♠ . Your partner has no fit for you; you can always remove to 4♠ if you must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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