your approach?

[Codo]

So here you are, your choice is obvious, isn't it?

 

If you need some system informations,

Opps play 5 card mayor, 15-17 NT, unluckily I am not sure about Wests double, she may hold the unbid suits or just hearts. Sorry, did not ask.

Your system includes 11-13 NT, 5 card majors. Partners weak openings had been the usual one suiters or weak with both majors.

If he had not passed after the double, he could have raised spades in several ways, including a XX to show a high (usually doubleton) honour, a natural 1 NT or non forcing new suits a the 2. level.

 

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[Fluffy]

2♦, einforced by not having used a 2 suiter bid previous round in my case, but even if I didn't I would bid 2♦ because of partner's lack of redouble

[PetteriLem]

I am tempted to double, but I cant, because I think I should have maximum hand with 6331 distribution for it, which is pretty far from what I have. I cant pull the pass card just yet, so I try 2♦.

[lesh]

I play 2di to show 5-5 so the bid is btw DBL and 2sp. DBL most of the time will be 4hearts 5spades. Therefore I go with 2sp :)

[aguahombre]

Wouldn't be concerned here about partner's inferences from my failure to bid a two-suiter over 1C.

 

First, Unfortunately our two-suit bids over 1C do not include the top/bottom hands.

 

Second, even if yours do, there are hand patterns/strengths where you might not have chosen to do it.

 

So, 2D here should probably still guarantee a 5-bagger. I will rebid 2S.

[Zelandakh]

Opposite a passed hand I would certainly have started with a 2♠ overcall. Bidding 2♠ now would show a better hand for me.

[aguahombre]

Opposite a passed hand I would certainly have started with a 2♠ overcall. Bidding 2♠ now would show a better hand for me.

My better half agrees with you. I think it is pretty close, but was accepting the OP's overcall for the purpose of discussion. Goose up the hand with the same distribution to make it a 1S overcall, but not a huge one, and the OP questions are still in play.

[mikeh]

I don't understand why anyone would regret not making a 2 suited overcall earlier: we have spades! Six times! and only 4 diamonds.

 

The only regret I have is that I didn't overcall 2♠, which would have been my choice at favourable opposite a limited hand.

 

Sure, it's a trifle heavy, but I've had a fair amount of success with this approach.

 

As for now, I know it is unpopular, especially in a bidding forum, to advocate a low-level pass but that's my choice, assuming imps.

 

At mps, I'd risk a 2♦ call because going -50 or -100 is likely to be a win (I'm not saying we won't make), whether in diamonds or spades, and pushing them to the 3-level might be an even bigger win.

 

At imps, I'm going to go quietly.

 

The auction isn't always over at this point, especially if LHO has the spade holding I fear: something like AJ9x. RHO didn't rebid 1N, which may be for shape reasons, but which at least increases the chances that spades sit poorly for us. My spots are horrific.

 

If I pass, LHO may be bidding 2N or 3♣ whereas if I bid (especially 2♠) LHO may start doubling. 500 against 110 is a very live possibility.

 

Passing out of fear is usually losing tactics, and maybe I have swung too low here, but that's my view on this one.

[aguahombre]

Mike: I don't see anyone regretting not making a two-suited overcall with this hand. We were talking about whether there is an inference about our diamond length if we now bid 2D.

 

My opinion was that it still would show 5D, and Fluffy believed the inference was only 4 because of the failure to make a 2-suit bid earlier.

[gnasher]

I'd pass. Partner can bid his own hand, and my hand has got worse.

 

I wouldn't have bid 2♠ on the first round, because my partners would never expect this much playing strength, and anyway I have quite a lot of defence.

[han]

I double because I have a huge hand short in clubs. Expect this to be unanimous.

[rhm]

I double because I have a huge hand short in clubs. Expect this to be unanimous.

I agree.

DBL shows a willingness to compete, short in clubs though I would not call it a huge hand.

With 4 hearts I would likely bid 2♥ when I could have shown 5♥ with a cue bid.

But why should I stress diamonds when I have 3 hearts escapes me.

 

Rainer Herrmann

[lalldonn]

I bid 2♦ because I'm very worried about partner passing the double. I have no aces and no clubs and little strength so I am very worried my hand is inadequate for defense if he passes. Since the diamonds are longer and better than the hearts and also a lower-ranking suit and since I have an extra spade if we end up there I'm not too concerned about leaving hearts out of the picture. Partner couldn't even open 2♥ w/r.

[JLOGIC]

I would double, not that concerned about partner leaving it in, he is under the clubs.

 

Passing seems like an incredible choice to me, sry gnasher.

 

I also don't like overcalling 2S though it's not horrible, my hand is playable in three strains and I am happy to keep them all in play. Obviously it could work well to push them up.

[PhilKing]

I'm heartened by the fact that nobody could actually bring themselves to click the Pass option in the poll. It's a bit like when people say they are going to vote for the LibDems, but come election time never do.

[the hog]

I would pass. Partner was not able to bid and we could easily go for a number here.Partner very possibly has 5 clubs here in a misfit hand. I do not understand those that bid or double.

[Siegmund]

Partner having had the ability to how me Hx and not done it sways me to 2D instead of 2S. Without that agreement I'd have bid 2S.

 

Glad to see I am not the only one using that agreement :)

[mcphee]

To me this is simply a question of "do I want to compete again". I think I do, even though I might get into some trouble. If I bid 2D partner is passing with 3 diamonds and 1S and you get punched out on the go. If I double, I show the ability to play in the reds and offer partner a choice, which includes passing. If partner passes we have at least involved him in the decision and he knows he is under declarer. I also do not want to rule out H as a spot just because LHO made neg dble. Bidding 2D when you are going to be punched at trick 1 seems a bit out there. Even 6-1 S will play better than 4-3 D after that start. If we land in H it looks like they have to lead one to start partners suffering.

 

Double, even though I would like a bit better just offers more options, isn't that what we want?

[dake50]

Partner did not Redouble with SAx + another card.

Did nor 2S with Sxxx + 6 points not in clubs.

I expect he has Sxx, HKxx, DJxx, CQ10xxx or nearly.

Then hope to push them up, little risk they penalize us.

But just maybe Sx, HKxxxx, Dxx, CQ10xxx and 2H is playable.

Or Sx, HKx, DAxxxx, CQ10xxx and 2D plays.

I try double. Taking my chances.

[fromageGB]

Given the methods, I bid (and voted for) 2♦. But I think 2♠ is MUCH better for an initial bid.

[benlessard]

best is 1S followed by X.

 

2nd option is 2S at round one

 

I hate everything else.

[Free]

I don't like 2♠. Yes, we have 6 of them, but it looks more like a 5 card suit to me. It seems better to bring ♦ in the picture, partner can easily show preference with 2♠ so we'll end up in a good fit if we have one. Dbl is more flexible (also brings ♥ into the picture) but I don't have much tricks in defense and I'm afraid partner will pass it out. So I'll bid 2♦.

[gnasher]

I'm heartened by the fact that nobody could actually bring themselves to click the Pass option in the poll. It's a bit like when people say they are going to vote for the LibDems, but come election time never do.

I never vote in a poll that ascribes a motive to my choice. It's like the difference between voting for the LibDems, and voting for the LibDems whilst simultaneously endorsing their policy on the rights of insects.

[aguahombre]

I never vote in a poll that ascribes a motive to my choice. It's like the difference between voting for the LibDems, and voting for the LibDems whilst simultaneously endorsing their policy on the rights of insects.

Yeh, I have trouble with polls which list the alternatives but add thoughts which are not mine, also. Tagging on just the systemic meaning of an alternative is fine, though.

 

Maybe the OP's who ascribe motive could give us outs:

 

2S--2H sucks

2S--2H doesn't suck