I may have given duff advice - just checking

[1eyedjack]

[hv=pc=n&w=saq7532h64dj5c742&d=s&v=e&b=3&a=2h]133|200|2H = weak, IMP[/hv]

[helene_t]

Not sure about the second question. I think opposite a passed partner when w/r at IMPs I would bid. Among other good things that could happen it could induce p to make a profitable stripe-tail-ape-double :) Still I am not sure if it would be a good idea.

[gwnn]

pass, wtp and yes it would. I haven't made up my mind when I'd bid but for sure I would at NV, MP with a passed partner.

[MickyB]

Pass at any conditions

[guido]

The only condition which would change my vote is location. If i were in England, I'd say "No bid" rather than "pass."

[mcphee]

This is just not an over call, hard to believe any votes for.

[benlessard]

2S is only reasonnable in the balancing seat with a partner who understand how balancing work.

[Zelandakh]

2♠ certainly seems reasonable to me under different conditions - as Dealer for example.

[barmar]

Pass. Overcalling over a preempt shows an opening hand. Partner is not going to expect you to hold a weak 2 of your own (and it's not even a good weak 2).

[Free]

Only if I thought RHO opened 1♥

[1eyedjack]

Thanks. Phew, I am still mainstream.

 

Supplementary question, now:

 

For the specified shape, what additional high card strength would you rate to be the minimum at which 2S overcall becomes borderline acceptable under the stated conditions?

 

Thanks.

[aguahombre]

Thanks. Phew, I am still mainstream.

 

Supplementary question, now:

 

For the specified shape, what additional high card strength would you rate to be the minimum at which 2S overcall becomes borderline acceptable under the stated conditions?

 

Thanks.

A hand which would expect 2S to make opposite the normal expectation from partner -- 6-8 HCP and semi balanced distribution. That way, partner can advance or pass with some clue.

 

Edit: A second criterion might be if you will know what to do other than cry if CHO bids a natural invitational 2NT.

Edited February 19, 2013 by aguahombre

[helene_t]

If you change Di jack to the king , i wouldn't yell at p for bidding . Change it to the ace and I would bid myself

[gwnn]

Another king for me, please, and I wouldn't object to the ♠T/J.

[relknes]

Thanks. Phew, I am still mainstream.

 

Supplementary question, now:

 

For the specified shape, what additional high card strength would you rate to be the minimum at which 2S overcall becomes borderline acceptable under the stated conditions?

 

Thanks.

I would want 11 good HCP with this shape. I would pass some very bad 12 counts, but bid all 13 counts with this shape.

[EricK]

Thanks. Phew, I am still mainstream.

 

Supplementary question, now:

 

For the specified shape, what additional high card strength would you rate to be the minimum at which 2S overcall becomes borderline acceptable under the stated conditions?

 

Thanks.

Add a king and it is borderline unacceptable, beef up the spot cards in ♠ as well and it is borderline acceptable.

[fromageGB]

The only condition which would change my vote is location. If i were in England, I'd say "No bid" rather than "pass."

Would you? I always say nothing and pull out a green card that has "Pass" on it. :P

[barmar]

I wonder why British Pass cards aren't blank -- isn't that a better way to represent "no bid"?

[the hog]

Obvious pass. I would bid 2S with the DA.