nige1 Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) [hv=pc=e&w=sak765hak7dak65c3&e=s432hq65432d432c2&d=w&v=e&b=5&a=1sp1np3d(GF)"p4s(Weak)ppdpprpp]266|200| Deal simplified from match last night .... Ignore the bidding You're declarer in 4[sP}XX. North leads ♣A and all follow. North switches to ♥J, South follows, and you win [HE}A. Both opponents follow to [sP}A Edited to correct orientation [/hv] Edited February 19, 2013 by nige1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 [hv=pc=w&w=sak765hak7dak65c3&e=s432hq65432d432c2&d=n&v=n&b=5&a=1sp1np3d(GF)"p4s(Awful)ppdpprpp]266|200|Deal simplified from match last night ....Ignore the biddingYou're declarer in 4[sP}XX. North leads ♣A and all follow.North switches to ♥J, South follows, and you win [HE}A. Both opponents follow to [sP}A[/hv] Small spade next. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Small spade next. Steven Why small? If spades are 5-0, we're down already but high spade-spade works just as well. If spades are 4-1, we're fine either way; if N (who doubled) has 3 spades and 3 hearts, he will win a small one and give his partner a heart ruff. I think high spade-spade avoids this risk. Is there a layout where it is inferior? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Why small? If spades are 5-0, we're down already but high spade-spade works just as well. If spades are 4-1, we're fine either way; if N (who doubled) has 3 spades and 3 hearts, he will win a small one and give his partner a heart ruff. I think high spade-spade avoids this risk. Is there a layout where it is inferior? LHO has, for example, QJT9 J QT9x AKxx. If you play on hearts, he ruffs the third round and you have five losers. If you play a third trump, he continues clubs and you are back to square one - you have to play on hearts and he ruffs the third round and you are still two down. By ducking now, he can't force you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowerline Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Why small? If spades are 5-0, we're down already but high spade-spade works just as well. If spades are 4-1, we're fine either way; if N (who doubled) has 3 spades and 3 hearts, he will win a small one and give his partner a heart ruff. I think high spade-spade avoids this risk. Is there a layout where it is inferior? Spades cannot be 5-0 because both followed to the first round... The bidding diagram is a bit confusing, but it looks as the doubler is behind declarer. If you continue with the ♠K now and spades turn out to be 4-1, you will lose 2 spades, 1/2 diamonds and 1 club. If you continue with a small spade, you keep trump control. The heart ruff is unlikely because that means that the partner of the doubler has 3 spades. But even then you will only lose 2 spades and a club. With one spade remaining in dummy you cannot be forced in clubs. Then you can continue playing trumps, enjoy all the hearts, discarding your diamond losers. Steven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahydra Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 The bidding diagram is sideways, but I agree with small spade next. We assume North (the doubler) has four. If we play a small spade next North is forced to win. When he returns a club dummy can ruff, then you cross to DA and cash the KS followed by another spade, leaving you one trump left to ruff the club return and enjoy the hearts. If a spade, you duck, ruff the club return, cash the SK and the hearts. If a red suit, you win in hand, cash the SK, exit a spade, etc. The club return is the key one because if we play SK and another then we get forced in clubs. ahydra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 'the guard' is this play/coup called in spannish (Centinela). Perhaps 'watcher' is a better translation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamHenry Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Spades cannot be 5-0 because both followed to the first round... The bidding diagram is a bit confusing, but it looks as the doubler is behind declarer. If you continue with the ♠K now and spades turn out to be 4-1, you will lose 2 spades, 1/2 diamonds and 1 club. If you continue with a small spade, you keep trump control. The heart ruff is unlikely because that means that the partner of the doubler has 3 spades. But even then you will only lose 2 spades and a club. With one spade remaining in dummy you cannot be forced in clubs. Then you can continue playing trumps, enjoy all the hearts, discarding your diamond losers. Steven The important thing I missed was "both opponents follow to the ♠A". I was addressing the question of what to play at trick 3, not trick 4 - so now I agree with the small spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Disoriented bidding diagram. Sorry. Now corrected.Well done all! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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