straube Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 All vul imps. You play strong club. P P ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Sorry I misvoted, should be 1H instead of pass (I missed that we're in 3rd). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 gotta get that lead-director in, and make them start bidding defensively instead of constructively. 1♥. Distant 2nd choice 2♥. If its good enough to overcall with, then its good enough to open 3rd seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 If you choose 1H, are passing partner's 1S response? Of course, sometimes opponents will take you off the hook, but partner's 1S response is 4+ cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I would bid 2D over 1S... If partner rebids 2NT, I pass. This is the absolute worst case scenario. Usually when we are inordinately weak, opps do not pass so meekly. Or if they do, maybe they are similarly cooperative in defence as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 If you choose 1H, are passing partner's 1S response? Yes. This is the opponent's deal, and at least I have the JT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Yes. This is the opponent's deal, and at least I have the JT. I'd pass 1S, too. The sooner partner knows I'm minimum the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 2H or Pass. 1H is a distant third choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillPatch Posted February 20, 2013 Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 A short (10 board) simulation yield a win for 1 ♥ 1.3 imps/bd over pass and 2.2 imps/bd over 2♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 2♥ for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalldonn Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 A short (10 board) simulation yield a win for 1 ♥ 1.3 imps/bd over pass and 2.2 imps/bd over 2♥.smh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm probably missing something but is this not as standard a Weak 2 as you could possibly get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I'm probably missing something but is this not as standard a Weak 2 as you could possibly get?What you're missing is the 6th ♥. However, this is a standard weak 2 in 3rd seat for many of us here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 NV I'm opening this hand 2♥ in 1st seat, so it seems perfectly fine in 3rd at equal. I'm sorry I don't have any simulations or journal articles to back this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdano Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 A short (10 board) simulation yield a win for 1 ♥ 1.3 imps/bd over pass and 2.2 imps/bd over 2♥.I think you got the auction wrong on hand 3, and the play wrong on hand 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 Opening 2♥ is asking for trouble. I'll open 1♥ and rebid 1NT if partner responds 1♠. He'll expect 11 to a bad 14, so he won't invite, even when holding a max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 28, 2013 Report Share Posted February 28, 2013 I really don't like 2H. Not only is it just extremely dangerous esp when vul with this hand, but it will more likely than not get them to play the hand well if they play our partner for the other honors. 1H is less dangerous (esp if playing strong club implies lightish openings...specifically if partner is unlikely or won't have a balanced 11 that will bid 2N in some auctions) imo, but will also screw them up in the play much more since they will be more likely to play you for honors and misguess the hand. 1H also has the same lead directing benefits of 2H, the only thing it misses is the direct preemption being more likely to make them land in a bad spot (esp if it's a partscore hand). I don't think this benefit has enough upside to compensate for the downsides, but others might disagree obviously. I would either pass or bid 1H, depending on a variety of factors, but I would usually bid 1H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madongjun Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 PASS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 Is not pass allowed on this one, I assume pard is expert. -- to win do we need to very often open 1h or 2h and lose with pass? If pass here is losing bridge, should not that be taught as standard? I mean look at all the posts that dont pass. the major vote is nonpass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 What you're missing is the 6th ♥. However, this is a standard weak 2 in 3rd seat for many of us here. :lol: knew I was missing something ;) Still would open this with 2♥even with 5 but can see why others wouldn't :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I once opened a weak 2 in third seat with ♥AKQxx and out in a local club. After the hand the opponents called the Director. He did not change the score but did warn me that I was banned from psyching for the rest of the session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I once opened a weak 2 in third seat with ♥AKQxx and out in a local club. After the hand the opponents called the Director. He did not change the score but did warn me that I was banned from psyching for the rest of the session.I assume it wouldn't be a problem if you hold ♥765432... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I once opened a weak 2 in third seat with ♥AKQxx and out in a local club. After the hand the opponents called the Director. He did not change the score but did warn me that I was banned from psyching for the rest of the session.The idiocy of both opps and worse yet, the director here will never cease to amaze me. I wonder how many newer players are chased from duplicate play by morons like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted March 1, 2013 Report Share Posted March 1, 2013 I once opened a weak 2 in third seat with ♥AKQxx and out in a local club. After the hand the opponents called the Director. He did not change the score but did warn me that I was banned from psyching for the rest of the session. I just got a director call about someone 'psyching' an inverted 3♣ call on xx xx Qxxx AQJxx. I also got pulled aside from a very concerned and frustrated man that thought his opponents were wired (I think he felt proud because he knew the modern slang) because his RHO opened 1♣ with 3 and his LHO raised with 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagles123 Posted March 2, 2013 Report Share Posted March 2, 2013 I once opened a weak 2 in third seat with ♥AKQxx and out in a local club. After the hand the opponents called the Director. He did not change the score but did warn me that I was banned from psyching for the rest of the session. Wow! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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