barsikb Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Pass-1♠-Dbl-Pass-? [hv=pc=n&n=s96hq72daq642c732]133|100[/hv] Strong enough for jumping to 3♦? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sk3hak96dk53cjt84&w=sqt75hj84djt7c965&n=s96hq72daq642c732&e=saj842ht53d98cakq]399|300[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 2♦ for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relknes Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 2♦ here as well. It is just shy of a 3♦ bid. Another point or another diamond and I will jump to 3♦, and if you switch the spades and clubs I would consider it (since partner's assumed spade shortage is likely to be working) though I would be much more likely to do so if I was bidding a major suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 IMO, yes, opposite reasonable takeout doubles it is a 3D advance. Unfortunately even that would probably not get us to 3NT, for partner would pass 3D unless really inspired. 2D would never get us there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 IMO, yes, opposite reasonable takeout doubles it is a 3D advance. Unfortunately even that would probably not get us to 3NT, for partner would pass 3D unless really inspired. 2D would never get us there. This. South would have to take a view to bid 3NT with that 14 opposite a passed hand (after 3♦). It's not insane, but I'd only do it if I was sure we needed a swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Put the Heart Queen in clubs, for instance, and partner would have done well not to be inspired, but if Advancer had an extra diamond ---oh, well :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 It is close, I would. I am a passed hand, so my upper limit is below opening bid strengh. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 2♦ for me, but I wouldn't shout at anyone who bid 3♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 This is an interesting one because it shows one of the changes in responding to a takeout double in the last 70 years. I am also with the 2♦ bidders and think this is normal now. However, I learned bridge from Culbertson books and in that style (if I can trust my memory for once) this would be a 3♦ advance even without being a passed hand. 8 hcp does not usually make game opposite a weak NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted February 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Thank you to all of you. For a change my opinion was same as of the experts: not to jump to 3♦ And even though on this hand 3NT would be ice-cold we should not make decisions based on that, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenMan Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 And even though on this hand 3NT would be ice-cold we should not make decisions based on that, right? Right, that's called "playing results". Some games are simply not meant to be bid. "Just a magic hand" is what my partner and I say when we score an unlikely +150 or 170. Sometimes I say "Meckwell would have bid it," referring to the expert pair well-known for regularly making game on 22 points. In my partnerships that means, "No one in their right mind would bid that game." :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barsikb Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 GreenMan, I'll just call them "Magic Hands" from now on :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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