Fluffy Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sakjt83hkqdjcaq92&n=s94ht52dakt7ckj63&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=pp2cp2np3sp4np5cp6sppp]266|200[/hv] opps are expert, partner is not, lead is ♦5 (3rd/5th) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Suspect I just prosaically go up with the A and run the 9♠ might depend pairs/teams. Why am I not in 6♣, really don't like the 2♣ opener or the methods here, we play 2♣-2N F4N unless a suit is known to be open, so 2♣-2N-3♠-3N is forcing and I can bid 4♣ nat now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 ♦AK, diamond ruff with the 8. If ♦Q drops, play ♠AK then throw the last heart on the diamond. Otherwise cross in clubs and run ♠9. Go down when LHO imaginatively plays ♦Q from Qxxxx with a singleton spade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alik1974 Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Non-expert partner's 4NT over 3♠ might mean that he has like 3 or 4 small ♠. The auction would call for a trump lead, however opening leader chose a ♦. There are a few reasons why he chose this lead :he has the tripleton trump Q (and possibly not the ♥A, as he might have led this card instead)he has the doubleton trump Qhe has at most one trump and does not want to give out the trump position (again I'd say he lacks the ♥A)his ♦ is a singletonI would play ♦A and try either of these (depending on the mood) :a deceptive ♥10, intending to pitch a ♥ on the ♦K next (unlikely to fool expert defenders, but only costs if ♦ lead is singleton)play the ♠9 intending to finesse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMoe Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 I'd try:♦A, ♦ ruff, ♠AIf nothing interesting happens I play Q to ♣K and hook the ♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Why am I not in 6♣, really don't like the 2♣ opener or the methods here.... 2C - 2D! ( waiting, but positive )2S - 2NT3C - 4C4D! ( kickback ) - 4NT ( 3rd step = 2 - ♣ Q )6C or1S - 1NTF3C - 4C4D! ( kickback ) , etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 16, 2013 Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 1S - 1NTF3C - 4C4D! ( kickback ) , etcNot playing 2/1 I suspect our auction starts 1♠-2♣-4♦(kickback) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2013 Jst out of curiosity, what percentages would you give to each: ♠Q with west ♦Q with west Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 [*]a deceptive ♥10, intending to pitch a ♥ on the ♦K I'm in the mood for a heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Both Nth and Sth, but especially Nth are butchers in the bidding. I run the S9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 17, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am having a lot of debates on this hand, so please answer the questions. Another one: Switch ♠K and ♦J for ♦A ♠4 making the suits: ♠K9♦KJ107 ♠AJ10843♦A How do you play trumps after a ♥A lead? What about 5-3? ♠K94♦A107 ♠AJ1083♦KJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alik1974 Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Jst out of curiosity, what percentages would you give to each: ♠Q with west ♦Q with west I'd say ♠Q with West : 55% ♦Q with West : 20% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if LHO has underlead ♦Q with the ♠Q on the side. However, putting all my money on that assumption is too risky. So I'll take the Ace and run ♠9. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I wouldn't be surprised if LHO has underlead ♦Q with the ♠Q on the side. However, putting all my money on that assumption is too risky. So I'll take the Ace and run ♠9. that makes 0 sense. you're putting all your money on the Q of S instead. if you want to make a better case for rising with the ace, it offers a modest combination of chances option - the trump finesse or ruffing out the Q of D and getting 2 quick pitches if trumps are 3-2. i would say this is not likely enough to upset me if i thought there was a particular reason to play for 1 queen or the other. as it happens, i would always bet on the Q of D being with the leader - something like 70-80% (i'm clueless at bridge maths) at a guess. people like leading from honours versus slams in hopes of building a trick and if he didn't have the queen he could have chosen some similar filth from which to lead, definitely in clubs and most likely in hearts, a la PoRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 Agree with the Wank. Don't think the quality of the opponents would be part of Declarer's thought process after seeing his 2C opener or the 2nt response. Certainly, Fluffy was neither North nor South. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 I was south :), Don't really know why I open 2 clubs, its completelly against my style, but I did. At least it will serve as a reminder not to do it again ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jogs Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 2C - 2D! ( waiting, but positive )2S - 2NT That's what I like. Never bid 2NT directly after a 2♣ opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 As a general rule, decent players lead aggressively against slams, but there are several caveats here: 1. They are leading round to a 2♣ opener, which makes it less attractive to attack. 2. North has not shown a trick source, so it is less likely they need to attack. 3. They know we are off a key card, so West is playing partner for, specifically, the diamond king and an ace to get in with. Otherwise, the lead is likely to just be spew. 4. If West has the spade queen, the chances of them attacking are lower still - they will try and find partner's ace. Depending on the level of West's expertise, I would be inclined to downgrade the chance he has the ♦Q considerably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 19, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 but below 50% phil? note that the bidding never said that 1 keycard was missing, its 3 + responder ones, and he is not very reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 19, 2013 Report Share Posted February 19, 2013 but below 50% phil? note that the bidding never said that 1 keycard was missing, its 3 + responder ones, and he is not very reliable. Well it would seem odds no to bid 5NT in an unlimited auction even for an unreliable player. It would be more likely he would do it with a key card missing. :ph34r: Yes, under 50% if West is VERY good. He will anticipate a random collection in dummy and just try and server the ball into the middle of the court. I've been trawling through a lot of Vanderbilt, Spingold, USBC, Europeans and World Championships, and attacking slams leads are way less common than I previously thought (no quantifiable data yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2013 In case anyone didn't deduce it yet, I played small from dummy at trick 1. Losing when RHO had ♠Qx ♥Axxx ♦Qxxx ♣xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I told you to take the S hook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesh Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sakjt83hkqdjcaq92&n=s94ht52dakt7ckj63&d=n&v=b&b=13&a=pp2cp2np3sp4np5cp6sppp]266|200[/hv] opps are expert, partner is not, lead is ♦5 (3rd/5th) I am with A♦ and small ♥. If it loses run the 9♠ from dummy. I dont like playing small ♦ because I dont like going down at trick 1 without exploring other options. If the Ace♥ is led I will still finess the RHO's Q♠ because if I was LHO and the bidding was the same I would defo lead my A♥ - it is a gamble but I dont want to be missing AK♥ :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 people leading a small heart off dummy at any point are evidently used to playing against morons. playing to escape losing to the A of H is just abrogating the Queens issue. man up and make a decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilKing Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 people leading a small heart off dummy at any point are evidently used to playing against morons. playing to escape losing to the A of H is just abrogating the Queens issue. man up and make a decision. They are and they have. Since declarer's hand is somewhat unknown thanks to partner's inspired bidding, even a non-moronic East has a problem discerning whether declarer has AKQJxxx KJx x Ax or not (a complete minimum). What is he supposed to do with xx Axxx Qxxx xxx? After all, rising ace only works because we lack a Two Club opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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