CSGibson Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 [hv=pc=n&s=sakqjt8hakj5d6c87&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=1d(10-15%20HCP%2C%200+%20diamonds)p1sp2c(5-4%20in%20minors%20either%20way%20usually)p2h(4th%20suit%20forcing%20to%20game)p3cp3sp3n(half%20stop%20in%20hearts)p]133|200[/hv] 1♦ was 10-15 HCP, 0+ diamonds (playing a big club system). It will only be 0 diamonds if opener is 4=4=0=5 shape. Partner would usually rebid 1N with a spade singleton and an otherwise balanced hand in the 11-13 range, so 2♣ either indicates that the hand is out of range, or that it is 5-4 in the minors, either way. A NT opening by our side would be 14-16. Beyond those considerations, it is a relatively normal 4th suit forcing auction. After 3N, is there an intelligent way to explore slam in a natural framework? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I'd be very inclined to bid 4♣ to agree clubs, then hope either partner or I will keycard (depending on what you use to ask if 4♣ doesn't ask in itself) and I can then convert clubs to spades. I presume 1♦-2♠/3♠ would be weak (it's unlikely you would want to splinter opposite a potentially 0 card suit). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I'd be very inclined to bid 4♣ Yeah, this is forcing and regardless of what pard does next (expecting 4♦/♥) 4♠ is a slam try that pard MAY be able to cooperate with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 I'd be very inclined to bid 4♣ to agree clubs, then hope either partner or I will keycard (depending on what you use to ask if 4♣ doesn't ask in itself) and I can then convert clubs to spades. I presume 1♦-2♠/3♠ would be weak (it's unlikely you would want to splinter opposite a potentially 0 card suit). 1D-2S would be an artificial game force showing a minor oriented hand. 1D-3S is weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 4H is coming in spades since with a minor you would bid 4 of a minor and with hearts you would have bid 3H last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted February 13, 2013 Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 FWIW I would just keycard over a 4S signoff after 4H. Even when it's not cold, a lot of the time it will be on the lead (eg partner has x Qx KQxxx Axxxx) which is a very good slam, and the rest of the time you are probably on a hook. Depending on how light you open, a really bad day you will have no play (--- Qxx QJTxx AJTxx which I believe most would not open), but I wouldn't really worry about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted February 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2013 4H is coming in spades since with a minor you would bid 4 of a minor and with hearts you would have bid 3H last time. That totally makes sense to me, but I didn't think of it last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted February 14, 2013 Report Share Posted February 14, 2013 I've declared too many times on 4M forcing bids that make sense to even think about them now :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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